Have you tried that?

I’m guessing, “No”. Because I’ve seen people trying that for some time now. I’ve seen those specific arguments in actual use, and they just bounce off. These people have their own facts, from their own sources, and hey won’t accept that those facts are mistaken, and those sources untrustworthy, no matter what (which is why the “fake news” label was so quickly and easily turned around into “fact-based reality I don’t agree with”. And of course, the double standard is thriving — it’s different when it’s “their side” being held to account.

So now (for example) when Fox News “tells the story” about an imaginary storm of immigrant-fuelled violence exploding in Sweden” — and that story is flatly contradicted by their sources (in Sweden) pointing out that they didn’t say anything of the kind and they weren’t even talking about immigrants in the “interview” in the first place, the American news coverage is all laser-focused on what TV news program might have inspired Trump’s nonsense, and spares no attention at all for the question of whether Americans should really consider FOX News a major, trustworthy “news” provider.