Politics of Reputation: Trump and Clinton Fallacies

Although we may not think of it so much years from now, I think it’s safe to say that the period of the 2016 election process might have been one of the most angry, divisive periods of US history. In scandalous fashion that we could’ve expected only from the 1960’s, we saw a billionaire egomaniac backed by the Ku Klux Klan take on the Secretary of State with a almost unmistakable streak of corruption. It sounds like a Treehouse of Horror plot from The Simpsons, a reality that could only exist in a satiric mind.

While Kang and Kodos aren’t running the show, and Gary Johnson may be picking up steam, if we go with the traditional American reality, one of these two hideous creatures is taking office, and I think we really need to step back and question which person in the POTUS chair is going to lead to an uglier future. I think in order to do this, we might need to look at their pasts

Wife Swap: Ideology Edition

I think the craziest thing I tend to see this election season through social media, and typical mudslinging stories, is how quickly we’ve pushed back actual quotes from the past, in which these candidates have absolutely gone against their parties norm. Trump was literally quoted saying “I consider myself more of a democrat…I’d run for president as a Republican…they’re the dumbest group of voters ever,etc” and Republicans STILL nominated him. That’s only slightly more dignified than letting Trump piss in your open mouth while you gargle trying to explain why a ban on fully automatic weapons or high capacity magazines is completely unreasonable. It’s sad that this didn’t generate as much traction in the primaries as we would’ve expected, but our friend below didn’t buy it.

American Gun-Owner Stereotype

However, while Trump may have gone so far east on the spectrum that he got the alt-right vote, we realize it may be a ploy, and Secretary Clinton is by no means innocent of these tactics. Clinton’s reputation is marred by the fact that she runs for the LGBTQ’s oft-chosen platform, though earlier days in her political career reflected choices AGAINST homosexual marriage rights. For a campaign that’s pitted itself against bigotry, it clearly hasn’t didn’t fight against it within it’s own party.


While Michelle Obama may have mystified you about the lightning Bolts Hillary Clinton’s going to throw down from Mt.Olympus to solve all your problems, just remember her Husband’s opinion not-so-long ago. Whether you’re a Democratic or Republican, you can’t deny that our current POTUS even questioned what Hillary has even done thus far in her political career. While we know Trump has done absolutely NOTHING in a political realm, and Hillary may only be deserving of a participation award (because we’re not even getting into her decision making ability yet,) we all know our two most-likely options this election year are both disingenuous, and brushing behind quotes from the past. In bipartisan discontent, let’s go through some of them.

Hillary Clinton: “They should be sent back as soon as it can be determined who responsible adults in their families are, because there are concerns about whether all of them should be sent back,”…“We have to send a clear message, just because your child gets across the border, that doesn’t mean the child gets to stay,” …. “So, we don’t want to send a message that is contrary to our laws or will encourage more children to make that dangerous journey.”…..[The USA] may be safer but that’s not the answer,”

These quotes were taken from a Huffington Post article, in which she took a stance quite contrary to the current anti-Trump rhetoric.

Donald Trump:“We want people to come into our country…legally, legally,” Trump said…“We’re going to bring people in, but we’re going to bring people in legally.”

A lot of the Republican narrative is laced with xenophobic characters who oppose keeping our borders so open. While some people may vouch for a push back against immigration itself, remember, Trump is actually vouching for keeping making the border a window, as opposed to a wall, so to speak….he’s just been really bad at explaining that. If you’re just a xenophobe and want to homogenize the US, Trump may actually NOT be your best choice, so bare that in mine, with your pitchfork in hand, or whatever republicans protest with nowadays.

Hillary Clinton:“I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in,”

Translation- WE’RE BUILDING A WALL! Not exactly, but quite similar in concept, don’t you think? She admitted this in 2015. While she may use Astrid Silva and other figures from the Latin-American Community to pretend like Hillary has been a champion of immigration…or illegal immigration? Which exactly do democrats stand for exactly? We’re not sure, just like we’re not sure about either candidates real ideals.

Donald Trump: “Trump has been a consistent opponent of marriage equality. He said that he opposed it because he was a “traditional” guy, choosing to support domestic partnership benefits instead.”…”After the Supreme Court ruling, Trump said the court had made its decision and, although he disagreed with the ruling, he did not support a constitutional amendment that would allow states to re-ban marriage equality. He later said he would appoint Supreme Court judges who would be committed to overturning the ruling.”- hrc.org

Although Peter Thiel was able to garner an uproar of Republican applause, and Trump seemed to have won respect over supporting the safety of the LGBTQ+ community, Trump hasn’t always been for gay marriage equality, and in theory, he still may not be. Before you think that Trump will be putting yellow equal signs on his line of ties, remember, being homophobic and opposing gay marriage, are two different things. It may be a bizarre attempt to have his cake and eat it too, but still, it’s possible that Trump doesn’t really support marriage equality, but has moved on from that fight. I don’t blame him, it isn’t worth it, and nothing good would come of it for ANYBODY.

Hillary Clinton:” Q: Why wasn’t your vote authorizing the Iraq war a mistake?

A: My vote was a sincere vote based on the facts and assurances that I had at the time. And I have taken responsibility for my vote, and I believe that none of us should get a free pass. It is up to the voters to judge what each of us has said and done. But I think the most important thing now is to focus on what we have to do together to try to force this president to change direction.

Q: Why are you against bringing the US troops home right now by cutting off funding?

A: I have introduced legislation to stop the escalation & to protect our troops. My legislation also says to the Iraqis: Enough. We are not going to fight your battles. We are not sending our young men and women in. You have to be on the front lines of your own defense. People ask me, “why don’t you want to cut money for American troops?” I want to cut money for Iraqi troops, because they’re not standing up and fighting the way that they have said they would.”- Taken from On the Issues

Before rage-quitting on this keyboard and losing my mind, we all realize that Hillary did cast a vote to send us into Iraq, and while you’d be stupid to believe that her vote was the only significant one that took us there, keep in mind the second answer. “I want to cut money for Iraqi troops, because they’re not standing up…etc.” Insert ISIS? Let’s just quit the surgery, because this guys not going to make it anyway. It’s one thing to go into the region, which resulted in mixed stability, but trying to put Iraq behind us is impossible. ISIS will be one of the biggest government discussions of our life, and leaving the Iraqi troops hanging was a turning point to the growth of ISIS.

The one thing we can all take away from our two candidates pasts, is that we don’t know what to believe, we don’t know what’s real. Who’s got dollars in who’s pockets? I know I don’t support Hillary, but I’m fully aware that supporting the Donald MIGHT not be the best interest of our country. Unfortunately, it’s not like there’s anyone else we can vote for.