Ilana Lindsey — I am highlighting the policy issues of whether people who are biologically male should be given the right to access spaces and services where women are undressed, vulnerable, sleeping etc… and where women and girls have been told, and expect that it is a single sex space. Similarly the questions over whether people with male bodies should be allowed to compete in women’s sports. If there is no way to describe the issue in words that are clear, then there is no way to talk about it. This is too high a price to pay. I don’t think it is reasonable to ring-fence the word ‘male’ and say that some people who *are* male, cannot ever be described as male because it is ‘triggering and insulting’. In the context of people’s own healthcare it is critical that doctors and healthcare professionals (and the information systems that support them) correctly identify people’s sex — it matters for the way drugs work, blood transfusion risks, pregnancy and other matters of reproductive biology(obviously) etc…. . People’s lives are put at risk if we (and they) go along with the idea that correctly identifying sex is forbidden.