I Know Your Anger,I Know Your Dreams

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A leader can be seen as a liberator. To liberate someone is to make them free.

What are the ways the leaders in this module are liberating?

“King Darius wanted to free people from lies and misinformation. The truth will set you free. Leaders can be crusaders against falsehoods. Falsehoods enslaves us. You can be a liberator by taking people out of slavery. That comes from the Education of Cyrus. Freedom of religion gives you the opportunity to worship your gods if you want to. Freedom of prosperity this is type of freedom that advertisers use so that you can buy their products. EX: Professor gives me a ton of donuts and I might consume too much” — Class Discussion

Sickle — “curved metal blade…” — Webster

Toil — “long strenuous fatiguing labor” — Webster

“Soft countries breed soft men.” — Cyrus

What other ways do you think of freedom? Freedom of Choice, Social Freedom, Mental and Physical Freedom.

Freedom of Choice — Doing whatever I want.

Social Freedom — being true to self in a social situation

Physical — Body imposes limitations on us that we do not have the freedom to do. Limitations of Nutritions and proper training.

Mental — The way you see yourself could be limiting, personality disorders, we all face these to develop ourselves fully.

To be free from the Medes is like a feast.

Democratic norms — what is it that we value? commitment to the rule of law? Do we think rule is important or a suggestion? Free press? Separation of powers? Liberties of speech?

Soft guard rails of democracy — imagine democracy is on a train track but the norms keep them on track. 10/26/2016 Notes

Frederica Wilson, congresswoman who challenged Trump in treatment of US soldiers who have fallen and the condolences of their families.

How could you have democracy without an election? Our faith in elections have been eroded. 2000 election eroded people faith in democracy because the supreme court voted to uphold the decision that been made in florida. There could have been a better process. People might not think elections are legitimate because of too much politicking behind the scenes. 10/26/2017 Notes

Aristoi = Best men

Calumnies = damaging someones reputation, slander

sic semper tyrannis = thats what we always do to tyrants — these words were from the Roman senators after they killed the dictator in “perpetuum — dictator for life”, Julius Caesar

The words were also used when John Wilkes Booth shot and killed Abraham Lincoln.

tyrannical leader (someone who seeks to lead without constitutional restraint) or a “tyrannical man” (someone whose own passions and impulses know no restraint)” ^^ module

The creators of this module is: Mallory Monaco Caterine, Rosemary Moore, Melina Tamiolaki, Maria Xanthou!

Mallor Monaco Caterine — Lecturer of Classical Studies at Tulane University, her teachings are in Greek and Latin Literature and history.

Rosemary Moore — Lecturer in History and Classics department at the University of Iowa.

Melina Tamiolake — Professor in Classics at the University in Crete

Maria Xanthou — Teaches Classics at the University of Leeds, UK

Tyranny — a form of governance that is not constitutional, has no boundaries or restrictions

Trump discourages freedom of speech — that is tyrannical behavior

One mechanism — He tried to hold off the election based of him saying he can not trust the people, outright military coup by declaring, Robert Mueller investigation. Is this justice? — Trump might do these thing to approach a more tyrannical suit to government.

Tyranny — we use to talk about leaders we have problems with

Tyrants do not like to be rival. They are very insecure. So they do not want to surround themselves around higher people.

“A tyrannos at least ought to have been free from envy, seeing that he has all manner of good things. He is however naturally in just the opposite temper towards his subjects; for he grudges to the aristoi (=best men) that they should survive and live, but delights in the basest of citizens, and he is more ready than any other man to receive calumnies.” — This means that a tyrannos would rather the higher people die so he does not have to be around them. Rather surround him/herself around lower power people so that he/she can be better than the low people.

Tyrants love to hear slander — they love to criticize people around them

Trump is very anti-elite

Tyrant originally means “a cruel oppressive ruler.”

Creon was a tyrannos (Tyrant). Xenophon = Tyrannikos

385 BCE — Plato

Anacyclosis — refers to the cycling of the type of government that would exist in a city state overtime.

Monarchy = Philosopher king/queen

The best form of government is Monarchy according to Platos idea.

Sophia → dikaiosune(justice), sophrosune(soberness/self-restraint), arete (courage/excellence)

Timocracy — love of honor is the ruling principle.

Oligarchy — few people are in power, they rely on wealth

Democracy — ruled by the people, liberty

Tyranny — cruel leader or government, evil

Tripartite soul: appetites, passions and reason

The interlocutors of the Xenophon Hiero are the Simonides and Hiero. The ideal readers are the students of Socrates I believe. A tyrant comes to power through military tactics and brutal force. Yes, a tyrant is lawless due to his lawless desires which we talked about in class. I believe that there could be good and bad tyrants. The reason I say this is because a tyrant is a person who has absolute power. The moral character while you are in power determines if you are a good or bad tyrant. Plato identifies justice as harmony. The justice principle entails The interlocutors of the Xenophon Hiero are the Simonides and Hiero. The ideal readers are the students of Socrates I believe. A tyrant comes to power through military tactics and brutal force. Yes, a tyrant is lawless due to his lawless desires which we talked about in class. I believe that there could be good and bad tyrants. The reason I say this is because a tyrant is a person who has absolute power. The moral character while you are in power determines if you are a good or bad tyrant. Plato identifies justice as harmony. The justice principle requires that a person fulfills the societal role where nature has put him and that he can not interfere with other businesses. Plato compares individual justice and political justice. He says conveys indivdual justice mirrors political justice. He says that the soul of every individual has three classes of society and structure. The soul seeks after truth and desire honor and is responsible for feelings of anger. and the appetite of the soul lusts after many things but wealth most of all. A just society allows the community to aim fulfilling whatever the rulers will. A timocratic individual is strong spirited part in his soul and will pursue, power, honor and success. Oligarchy emphasizes wealth rather than honor. Democracy = the desires of freedom to do what on wants. The license aimed in democracy is very extreme and any limitations on anyone’s freedom is unfair. Socrates states that when freedom is taken to the extreme then slavery is produced. To gain and retain power a tyrant is forced to commit; false pretenses, kill people, attack kinsmen,cancel debts of poor to gain support and etc. The tyrant perceives threats to his power when rich, wise and brave people are in the city. The tyrant can face options by living with worthless people or with good people who will eventually overthrow him. The tyrant will use mercenaries as guards since he does not trust any of the citizens. The tyrant needs a large army and will spend the cities money. He will kill members of his own family if they resist his ways with no hesitation. Socrates discusses the tyrannical individual by talking about the necessary and unnecessary pleasures and desires. The balanced souls should be able to unnecessary desires from becoming lawless and extreme. When one comes eros or lust. The tyrannical individual is mad with lust and this makes him seek ways to satisfy his desires and to resist. Tyrants are incapable of friendhsips. Socrates states that a tyrannical individual is the most unhappy individual. The tyrannical indiviudal is enslaved and will do what he wants poor and unsatisfying. Socrates ranks the individuals in terms happiness the justest one is the happiest one.

In Xenophon’s Hiero, Xenophon interrogates poetics. Xenophon’s Hiero depicts an interaction between Simonides (poet) and Hiero (tyrant). The purpose of the dialogue is to determine whether the tyrant or the private citizen is happier. Xenophon chose to use Simonides (Interlocutor) in place of his normal socratic character. Simonides is a problematic character because he had a reputation for greed and the Socratic interlocutor is uniterested in profit and most interested in truth-telling. Xenophon advocates the creation of timocracy.

Simonides asks Hiero how is being a tyrant different from being an ordinary citizen and Hiero responds back saying it’s been so long since he has been a citizen and forgot what it feels like. Simonides says that its a life of pleasure and pain and both come from the boddy and the mind. The tyrant has to experience more pleaure. The men become tyrants because they do not know any better. Citizens are known to do whatever they want and as they please as a tyrant stays home to execute justice or to keep his power base secure. The tyrant hears good things but knows that people are thinking of evil of him no matter what. The tyrant gets alot of food and drink and does not have the pleasure of a great meal that a citizen enjoyable. The tyrant food has to be seasoned so well so that it does not taste bland. When it comes to sex, a tyrant can not just be with anyone. He has to marry down and can never truly marry his equal. Sex outside of marriage is sex with slaves. Sex has to be without desire and even if the tyrant experiences true affection he is not sure that is genuinely gonna be returned that a person fulfills the societal role where nature has put him and that he can not interfere with other businesses. Plato is trying to convey the message that individual justice mirrors political justice. He says that the soul of every individual has three classes of society and structure. The soul seeks after truth and desire honor and is responsible for feelings of anger. and the appetite of the soul lusts after many things but wealth most of all. A timocratic individual is strong spirited in his soul and will pursue, power, honor and success. Oligarchy underlines wealth rather than honor. Democracy = is the freedom to what one wants (desires). The license/freedom directed in democracy is very extreme and limitations on anyone’s freedom is truly unfair. Socrates states that when freedom is taken to the extreme then slavery is produced. To gain and retain power a tyrant is forced to commit; false pretenses, kill people, attack kinsmen,cancel debts of poor to gain support and etc. The tyrant perceives threats to his power when rich, wise and brave people are in the city. The tyrant faces options by choosing to live with worthless people or with good people who will eventually overthrow him. The tyrant will use mercenaries as guards since he does not trust any of the citizens. The tyrant requires a large army and will spend the cities money. He will kill members of his own family if they resist his ways with no hesitation. Socrates discusses the tyrannical individual by talking about the necessary and unnecessary pleasures and desires. The balanced souls should be able to keep their unnecessary desires from becoming lawless and extreme. When one comes eros or lust. The tyrannical individual is mad with lust and this makes him seek ways to satisfy his desires and to resist. Tyrants are incapable of friendhsips. Socrates believes that a tyrannical individual is the most unhappy individual. The tyrannical indiviudal is enslaved and will do what he wants poor and unsatisfying. Socrates ranks the individuals in terms happiness the justest one is the happiest one.

In Xenophon’s Hiero, Xenophon interrogates poetics. Xenophon’s Hiero depicts an interaction between Simonides (poet) and Hiero (tyrant). The purpose of the passage is to determine whether the tyrant or the private citizen is happier. Xenophon chose to use Simonides (Interlocutor) in place of his normal socratic character. Simonides is a problematic character because he had a reputation for greed and the Socratic interlocutor is uniterested in profit and most interested in truth-telling. Xenophon advocates the creation of timocracy.

Simonides asks Hiero how is being a tyrant different from being an ordinary citizen and Hiero responds back saying it’s been so long since he has been a citizen and forgot what it feels like. Simonides says that its a life of pleasure and pain and both come from the boddy and the mind. The tyrant has to experience more pleaure. The men become tyrants because they do not know any better. Citizens are known to do whatever they want and as they please as a tyrant stays home to execute justice or to keep his power base secure. The tyrant hears good things but knows that people are thinking of evil of him no matter what. The tyrant gets alot of food and drink and does not have the pleasure of a great meal that a citizen enjoyable. The tyrant food has to be seasoned so well so that it does not taste bland. When it comes to sex, a tyrant can not just be with anyone. He has to marry down and can never truly marry his equal. Sex outside of marriage is sex with slaves. Sex has to be without desire and even if the tyrant experiences true affection he is not sure that is genuinely gonna be returned.

Works Cited:

“I Know Your Anger, I Know Your Dreams” — Module

www.brittanica.com/Tyrant

“Xenophon’s Hiero”

“Platos Republic”

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