Do what it takes, but don’t get into a debt spiral. Debt is an invisible jail, you don’t want to bet with your life. In order to succed or have another chance, you need at least to be free. I respect all Jason’s points, but keep in mind that even if he has loads of money, he is still taking penny $ for sall kind of very intrusive ads in his podcast. What does this means? Every penny counts… lack of debt matters infinite more.