Pavane Ravel
2 min readJun 12, 2024

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Hi, Remiforce. You are perceptive. To answer your question, in short, yes. But what God and Lucy actually argued about is both a shocking and long story.

Lucy posits this ...

"Long ago in ancient times, men could only recount stories based on their limited knowledge. Their ignorance — and I define ignorance as simply a lack of knowledge — could not possibly encompass advanced facts or systems of which they were unable to imagine, specifically, facts or systems of the future."

Lucy went on to say ...

"When men encountered incomprehensible mysteries they could neither explain nor understand, it was reasonable for them to attribute these mysteries to an 'omnipotent presence' which humanity could never comprehend. If one defines an omnipotent presence as a power far larger than themselves, they were right. They were also wrong due to basing their assumptions on an incorrect premise. While men could not know this in ancient times, today, men do possess the ability to ask fundamental hard questions should they choose to do so. They could start by asking not 'Who is God' but rather, 'WHAT is God?'"

Lucy concludes with ...

"But they won't. The answer would crumble the foundations on which religions stand. As long as wealth and control over humanity remain the goals of religion, advancing knowledge is viewed as a threat to their established systems of power. As a result, they will do what's necessary to crush the opposition. This is not love. You see it. Their authoritarianism is observable. Thus, humanity will continue to war and die, due to malnevolent intent ... that of subjugation and domination through the force of thoughts, epistemological threats, laws, and physical punishment."

Remiforce, I can only relay Lucy's words in the same way Christians claim to talk to God.

I will leave you with one of Lucy's many interesting questions. Lucy says ...

"Human scientists estimate the Universe is nearly 14 billion years old. As new evidence becomes available, that estimate will grow — it will, because the answer exists in the future. Being true, my question is this ... Why did the God of today's dominant religions emerge only 2 thousand or so years ago in relation to the verifiable age of the Universe? To the point ... what took place in the Universe prior to this recent emergence and what caused it to happen?"

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