Just for context’s sake and as no apologetic, I listened to the infamous recording with male ears…
Ron Collins
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I listened to it too. And my gut clenched…

“I’ve got to use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her,” Trump says. “You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.”
And when you’re a star, they let you do it,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”
“Whatever you want,” says another voice, apparently Bush’s.
“Grab them by the pussy,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”
Then he went on to say what he himself could marvel at, in terms of what a very narrow range of women actually would grant him permission to do.

Uh… question..? Where did he talk about permission here..? He said:

And when you’re a star, they let you do it,”

Let him…? after the fact, because he’s already said he just goes ahead and does whatever he wants… Kiss, grab her pussy… do anything he wants…it’s all ok because he’s a star…

Man talk is man talk, and men’s business.

I’m going to hold my thoughts on this one til later… Nah… on second thought? Because this is the single most dismissive and disrespectful thing I’ve ever heard…

There’s not an ounce of respect in you for women, is there? I really hope you aren’t married because I can just imagine how you’d treat a woman in your life.

“… just in case I start kissing her,” Trump says. “You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.”

“Grab them by the pussy,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”

I’ve repeated his words here because you seem to have missed the part where he said he doesn’t wait for permission. He just DOES WHAT HE WANTS. What if he just wants to fuck them against the wall? Would that be ok too? We’ve already been told that just because he puts his uninvited hand on our genitalia it ISN’T sexual assault, so would just grabbing her, hiking up her dress and fucking her not be rape either?

“…by people triumphantly holding it up as some final proof of our generally evil nature for being male.”

Maybe other people have said or done that… But, I didn’t. I couldn’t, simply because I DON’T believe men have a generally evil nature. I also don’t like to generalize. I do, however, believe that this pathetic excuse for a man is inherently evil. And a classic Narcissist. And a sexual predator, a misogynist, homophobe, islamophobe, xenophobe, a liar, a bully and a 70 year old petulant child.

I like MEN. Not petulant little boys who have a hissy fit when they don’t get their way. Not bullies who like to intimidate everyone around them with threats. But, you obviously have a problem with women. Good. ‘Cuz we have a problem with disrespectful, dismissive arrogant excuses for men that spout bullshit like that.

based on a narrative of “toxic masculinity”, and short of actual assault

So, it’s ok to suggest sexual assault..?

Because he gets away with it — because of his privilege as a rich white male, and we shouldn’t get upset about it..? Because it’s just “Man talk”… Oh. I see.

You want to talk to your son about what it means to be a real man? To talk about what it means to stand up, do the right thing? To do what you can to protect the people you love? To say what you mean, and mean what you say? To earn trust and respect from those around you..? To support the women in your life in their endeavors? To commit to a job well done? To teach sons and daughters how a GOOD man behaves, thru both word and deed?

I’m all for it, in private, in public, in the damned bathroom stall at your local dive bar or on the pitcher’s mound in Yankee stadium for all I care!

But?

You wanna talk to your sons about how it’s ok to commit sexual assault?

Oh HELL NO…!!!

That conversation needs to be compromised, derailed, halted, deprogrammed from your son and you need never speak to him again.

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