In Response To My Virtue Signaling Friends Lecturing Me About Donald Trump
The seven stages of grief are shock, denial, anger, bargaining, depression, testing and acceptance.
We’re now at the bargaining stage of the Donald Trump political revolution. Friends I know and respect have abandoned their posts ridiculing Trump as a clown, have given up predicting other candidates will soon overtake him when others drop out, and are now simply lecturing us on how it is quite literally immoral to support Trump.
If you can’t win the argument, re-frame the context to make it one of good v. evil.
Now I really like these friends. And I get why they’re freaking out over the idea of a corrupt, ineffective and elitist establishment being overthrown.
Just today on Huffington Post I read Jeremy Nix’s “Open Letter to My Friends Who Support Donald Trump.”
I felt compelled to respond, since his letter was open, and I’m a part of the group he’s hoping to get through to. Below is Jeremy’s article in bold, broken up by my occasional interjection:
I’m cool with you removing me from your friends list if you don’t like this post. You can even disown me if you like. But Donald Trump isn’t a good person, nor would he be a good president. I can understand a difference in politics. I can understand if you don’t like a government run by Democrats. I can understand if you don’t like certain ideologies, like Socialism. But I can’t understand why you would support someone as hateful, sexist, racist and ignorant as Donald Trump.
Interesting start Jeremy. You make some bold claims: hateful, sexist, racist and ignorant. These are the core reasons why you establish someone shouldn’t support Trump. Excited to see you back this up with concrete examples.
How do you support him so blindly? Ask yourself, are you a racist, sexist, hateful and ignorant person as well?
Ok, wait, let’s stick to the argument. No need for ad hominems in paragraph two.
I hear his supporters saying they like him because he tells the truth, because he’s so rich he can say whatever he feels like with no apologies. Just because Trump is saying these things doesn’t suddenly make them right. It’s not okay to discriminate against an entire religion based on a small percentage of its followers who have become terrorists by twisting the words of the religion to fit their crazy ideals.
You’re sweeping with broad strokes right now Jer - our Department of Homeland Security says we have no means of vetting any refugees that come into our country. ISIS has been producing propaganda directing their followers to take advantage of our immigration policies to sneak into the US.
I believe Donald Trump took a very hard-lined stance on this, knowing it was an impossible ask, knowing he’d eventually compromise, but wanting to start with everything on the table. Look at how the conversation has gone since his PR statement, and you almost have to thank him for starting a healthy debate.
And, as far as small percentages go, I think you should check this out:
It’s not okay to marginalize an entire race of people, saying things like all the Mexicans are lazy, that they are all stealing our jobs and bringing drugs into our country.
Weird, you didn’t actually use any quotes, you just threw the word all around like it was a hot potato. If you’ve ever watched Trump’s rallies, you know he often speaks of his love for the Mexican people, his employment of thousands of Mexicans, and his admiration of their hard-working spirit.
The famous quote - the one you’re taking out of context - said Illegal Immigrants were rapists, but it clearly was not implying all 12 MILLION were. You’re smarter than that.
A report from the Atlantic says our FBI has a backlog of 100,000 criminal cases with illegal immigrants that we can’t even get through. These criminals are not being deported, they’re being let back on the streets because we don’t have the infrastructure to prosecute them.
So, if 100,000 of 12 million are criminals, we think that’s a lot.
The Japanese Internment camps were wrong, Segregation was wrong, Slavery was wrong. We fought wars amongst ourselves to rise above racism and hatred. In WWII more than 60 million people died worldwide. Why? Because of twisted people who were whipping up the population into a frenzy and making ridiculous statements, killing innocent people simply because of their race or religion. The United States lost more than 400,000 lives fighting in that war, against the same ideas that Trump is pushing. The idea that certain religions are more dangerous than others and the idea that people should be judged based on the color of their skin rather than the content of their character.
I mean whoa - a LOT of straw men arguments in this paragraph. Given what I just said about Trump’s actual comments to Mexicans, what group is he specifically targeting by the color of their skin? If it’s Mexicans, how come Latinos support him at a rate 2x more than any other candidate? Including Marco Rubio?
Something doesn’t add up.
To conflate the origins of World War II with Trump wanting to put a temporary halt on Muslim immigration is equally impressive and horrifying. I refuse to even acknowledge the idea that Hitler’s extermination of eight million innocent Jews is in the same universe as Trump wanting to halt immigration from a region responsible for the most extremist violence in the world.
None of this mentions Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz’s very similar policies on the issue, but that’s neither here nor there.
The kind of leadership Trump is displaying is irresponsible and dangerous. His virulent ideas are seeping into the brains of his supporters. Supporters who think it’s okay to say things like “light the mother@!$%#er on fire” while a protester is being dragged out of one of his rallies. Maybe the protester was wrong to be where he was at the time, but no matter what he did, there was no reason to set him on fire. In fact, there is NEVER a reason to set anyone on fire. Unless it’s because they are dead and they wish to be cremated.
Um. Man. I don’t… even. OK.
Where were you in 2012 when Obama insinuated Mitt Romney literally murdered someone?
Where were you when Ronald Reagan told the government to use any means necessary to stop a group of college protesters in a park?
Trying to nail a Presidential candidate on the actions of one person at one of their rallies is irresponsible. He speaks to 10,000 people a day. I’m sure you were questioning Barack Obama just as much for his guilt by association: Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers come to mind.
We need the kind of leader that seeks to bring us together, not tear us apart. Why do we have to fight against helping each other, against common sense, against a united Nation? The American Dream is a nightmare and we are feeding it, making it worse every day. Trump is a bully, a loud mouth, ignorant, sexist, racist, disgusting example of how horrible humans can potentially be.
Disappointed in your inability to elaborate on these vicious attacks so far. Also interested to hear what you think of Hillary Clinton declaring “Republicans” as her biggest enemy in a 2015 debate, over groups like ISIS and Iran. Doesn’t sound like bringing us together, does it?
Remember elections are a question of options, so don’t throw bricks at one candidate unless you have a much better option.
They always say it’s so important to make your voice heard, to get out and vote. But I’m not sure if it’s ever been more important than now. Differences of political ideals are one thing, I can agree to disagree on many matters across a wide array of topics, but racism isn’t one of them, neither is hate, neither is the belittling of women or the judgment of others based on their appearance or their disability, or their sexual preference. By supporting Trump do you think things will go back to the way they were? Back when gay people had to hide in fear, back when people of any other color than white had to worry about getting lynched, back when it was okay to openly hate? Do you think empowered women will suddenly quit their jobs and go back to the kitchen ? Because electing Trump won’t make any of that come true. We’re past that as a nation, or at least I thought we were.
Um, of the three Republican front runners Trump’s stance on Gay Marriage is by far the most progressive. Interested to hear how he’s judging others based on sexual preference.
Again though, is any of what you are saying based in reality? Because you’re not citing anything.
Trump’s daughter is one of the heads of his company - she’s an amazingly successful woman… women in the kitchen? Yikes.
If you’re not a racist, bigoted, misogynistic jerk then voting for Trump simply because you don’t like Democrats is wrong.
How about because Democrats are diametrically opposed to everything I believe?
If you are one of his supporters and you’re just a racist and you don’t care who knows it then vote for him, but know that the good people of America will not stand for it and he will never win a fair election.
He just won three of them while you were pouting.
And please consider pursuing an education and work on your empathy toward your fellow human beings.
Man. High Horse. Pedestal. Ivory Tower, etc.
Whatever led you to believe that racism is okay can be unlearned if you open your mind. I’m sorry that you were raised to believe that you deserve better treatment than the rest of the people on the planet that have different views than yours, worship different gods than you and have skin that isn’t white.
I just want to remind you that not once in this rambling, incoherent argument of yours have you provided an example of this virulent racism you keep referencing.
The crux of your argument is on a quote from 10 months ago that you obviously parsed and ran with it.
And he couldn’t be more right. Trump IS the one percent, he IS working on your prejudices, and he WILL destroy the Republic if he is elected, make no doubt about it.
“[I am] calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on” — Donald Trump. That’s religious discrimination.
Already explained this to you.
“An ‘extremely credible source’ has called my office and told me that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud” -Donald Trump. That’s an outright lie.
Elections are a question of choice, and my other option in the general (Hillary Clinton) is credited with STARTING this movement when she ran against Obama, but okay.
“Ariana Huffington is unattractive, both inside and out. I fully understand why her former husband left her for a man — he made a good decision.”- Donald Trump. This is sexism, and just plain rude.
“You know, it really doesn’t matter what the media write as long as you’ve got a young, and beautiful, piece of @!$%#.” — Donald Trump. This is misogyny at its finest.
You have to realize we’ve made it through a Bill Clinton presidency where he LITERALLY stuck a cigar into an intern’s vagina in the oval office, then placed it in his mouth, and said “tastes good.” You also must realize Trump’s general election opponent is infamous for running a bimbo squad that literally silenced the victims of sexual assault and rape.
So yes, in that context, these quotes are irrelevant I’m sorry. I don’t love them either, but when a former President has done much worse, and the other option is far more sinister, your cries for decency fall on deaf ears.
“I will build a great wall — and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me — and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words.” — Donald Trump. The words of an arrogant hate monger.
Because he wants to stop illegal immigration and uphold the law of the land? What policies - if any - do you believe in?
“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists… And some, I assume, are good people.” -Donald Trump. Racist.
There it is, that quote again.
“Our great African-American President hasn’t exactly had a positive impact on the thugs who are so happily and openly destroying Baltimore.” — Donald Trump. Racist.
“If I were running ‘The View’, I’d fire Rosie O’Donnell. I mean, I’d look at her right in that fat, ugly face of hers, I’d say ‘Rosie, you’re fired.” — Donald Trump. The words of an @!$%#.
“The beauty of me is that I’m very rich.” — Donald Trump. So Vain.
See above comments on Bill Clinton, cigars, interns, et al.
“It’s freezing and snowing in New York — we need global warming!” — Donald Trump. Ignorant.
Remind me the specific policy differences on this one between Trump and Rubio or Cruz.
“My fingers are long and beautiful, as, it has been well documented, are various other parts of my body.” — Donald Trump. Gross.
“I think the only difference between me and the other candidates is that I’m more honest and my women are beautiful.” — Donald Trump. Sexist. As if women are possessions rather than people. And also a lie. A lie about how honest he is.
Again, dude, Bill Clinton, cigars, vaginas. This ship has sailed. Sorry politics aren’t the paradigm of decency you think they are.
How can you support this man?
An Open Letter to My Friends who Support Donald Trump
Unfortunately none of what you wrote above was convincing. You rambled, you stuck to ad hominems, you threw out many extreme adjectives while relying on one specific quote, and you never dove into policy.
Please review, revise and send back. Thanks.
If you still don’t get why we’re supporting him, try any of these articles:
If you haven’t noticed by now, the media and nation’s elite have missed the boat on the 2016 Election.medium.com
Read these policy proposals put forth by Donald Trump. Do not try to tell us he does not have a conservative vision for…medium.com
This needs to be said to my conservative friends ready to go down with the ship in the name of principle.medium.com