Thank you for the privilege of hearing this Ignite Talk Debbie. I love the conversation we shared as you prepared for this. The idea and opportunity of truly seeing one another has stuck ever since. I am also still processing this line, “Empathy is not a new or innovative idea, though it is an essential element in design thinking and innovation in general.” Being mindful and receptive to one another may be at the heart of humanity and thus crucial to our calling as educators. It is an honour to call you friend.