Who Said It: Marquis de Sade or Jordan B. Peterson?

Andrew Kerr
4 min readJun 14, 2018

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Marquis de Sade was an 18th-century French nobleman, politician, philosopher, and inspiration for the term “sadist” due to his obsession with sexual cruelty. Sade is mostly famous for his novels including Justine, The 120 Days of Sodom, and Philosophy in the Bedroom.

Jordan B. Peterson is a psychology professor at the University of Toronto and self-styled “cultural warrior”. He believes men represent order, women represent chaos, and that enforced monogamy is the best “cure” for all the male-perpetrated violence in the world (because, obviously, men are only violent when they are lonely and so it’s naturally a woman’s responsibility to fix that). Peterson is mostly famous because of YouTube or something.

Here are some quotes from both of them. Can you correctly guess who said what?

  1. “Either kill me or take me as I am, because I’ll be damned if I ever change.”
  2. “Happiness lies neither in vice nor in virtue; but in how we appreciate one another, and the choice we make pursuant to our individual organization.”
  3. “Weak and miserable as I am, I can still stand up to the terrible tragedy of life and prevail!”
  4. “Do not breed. Nothing gives less pleasure than childbearing. Pregnancies are damaging to health, spoil the figure, wither the charms, and it’s the cloud of uncertainty forever hanging over these events that darkens a husband’s mood.”
  5. “Without that forward-going, courageous consciousness, woman herself will drift into unconsciousness and terror. It’s the sleep of the naive and damned. Unless woman is taken out of man, then she isn’t a human being — she’s just a creature.”
  6. “No lover, if sincere and in good faith, will deny he would prefer to see his mistress dead than unfaithful.”
  7. “Rejection of the unknown is tantamount to “identification with the devil,” the mythological counterpart and eternal adversary of the world-creating exploratory hero. Such rejection and identification is a consequence of Luciferian pride, which states: all that I know is all that is necessary to know.”
  8. “Life without law remains chaotic, effectively intolerable. Life that is pure law becomes sterile, equally unbearable. The domination of chaos or sterility equally breeds murderous resentment and hatred.”
  9. “Lycurgus, Numa, Moses, Jesus Christ, Mohammed, all these great rogues, all these great thought-tyrants, knew how to associate the divinities they fabricated with their own boundless ambition.”
  10. “What I should like to find is a crime the effects of which would be perpetual, even when I myself do not act, so that there would not be a single moment of my life even when I were asleep, when I was not the cause of some chaos, a chaos of such proportions that it would provoke a general corruption or a disturbance so formal that even after my death its effects would still be felt.”
  11. “Only man will inflict suffering for the sake of suffering.”
  12. “The motivation that drives the commission of the worst human atrocities is an inevitable social consequence of the refusal of the self-conscious individual to make the sacrifices appropriate to establishing a harmonious life, and their consequent degeneration into a kind of murderous and resentment-filled rage propagating endlessly through its variations in society until everything comes to an end.”
  13. “I’ve already told you: the only way to a woman’s heart is along the path of torment.”
  14. “Woman’s destiny is to be wanton, like the bitch, the she-wolf; she must belong to all who claim her.”
  15. “The Great Mother aborts children, and is the dead fetus; breeds pestilence, and is the plague; she makes of the skull something gruesomely compelling, and is all skulls herself. To unveil her is to risk madness, to gaze over the abyss, to lose the way, to remember the repressed trauma. She is the molestor of children, the golem, the bogey-man, the monster in the swamp, the rotting cadaverous zombie who threatens the living. She is progenitor of the devil, the “strange son of chaos.” She is the serpent, and Eve, the temptress; she is…the insect in the ointment, the hidden cancer, the chronic sickness, the plague of locusts, the cause of drought, the poisoned water. She uses erotic pleasure as bait to keep the world alive and breeding; she is a gothic monster, who feeds on the blood of the living.”
  16. “If nature denies eternity to beings, it follows that their destruction is one of her laws. Now, once we observe that destruction is so useful to her that she absolutely cannot dispense with it from this moment onward the idea of annihilation which we attach to death ceases to be real what we call the end of the living animal is no longer a true finish, but a simple transformation, a transmutation of matter. According to these irrefutable principles, death is hence no more than a change of form, an imperceptible passage from one existence into another.”
  17. “There’s no difference between the conquering of the unknown and the creation of habitable order.”
  18. “I know how to stand up to a man who’s unfairly trespassed against me and the reason I know that is because the parameters for my resistance are quite well-defined, which is: we talk, we argue, we push, and then it becomes physical. If we move beyond the boundaries of civil discourse, we know what the next step is. That’s forbidden in discourse with women and so I don’t think that men can control crazy women. I really don’t believe it. I’m defenceless against that kind of female insanity because the techniques that I would use against a man who was employing those tactics are forbidden to me.”
  19. “Fuck! Is a man expected to be a gentleman when he’s stiff?”

Sade: 1; 2; 4; 6; 9; 10; 13; 14; 16; 19
Peterson: 3; 5; 7; 8; 11; 12; 15; 17; 18

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