Ciswoman, Transwoman, All women. Different Together.
Here are my thoughts…
“Saying that because you are a woman, your penis is a female penis and should be seen as a vagina in change rooms and woman spaces, while women constantly still deal with being sent dick pics, and being flashed, and forced to see penises when we never consented to. As a rape survivor this can be especially difficult for me.”
Yoh!! Why why why?? So preop transwomen who go to womens bathrooms flash their dicks around to the rest of the (cis) women???
“A celebrity rich famous woman who had been a man for so so many years and a woman for very few winning a women’s award over women who had far far more right.”
Even I was shocked…but then…America!
“Telling lesbian woman they are transphobic if they do not overlook a pre op trans woman’s penis.”
Gosh! As my fiance says, these genitals are being given so much power than they already have!
“And I am not saying you don’t have a right to transition, you do. But I have a right to natal born woman spaces, I have a right to the language that I am barely allowed to use currently. I have a right to not be forced to see a penis in a changing room, just because you see it as a vagina. And I am generally the one ok with nudity, but as a rape survivor, sometimes I don’t want to be exposed to a penis which is why I sometimes need women changing rooms. And no you identifying as female doesn’t decrease the shock value when I suddenly see a penis and wasn’t expecting too.”
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! So, again I ask, in the US, transwomen go to changing rooms and wag their penises at ciswomen’s faces every damn time??? Chei!!
“Germaine Greer faced a similar crucifixion when she attempted to discuss the need to acknowledge the difference between a woman who spent 50 years as a man and is now a woman and is winning women’s awards and being hailed as a role model and that women were left to feel like they were being told that now men are better at being women than women.”
This is where people don’t get it. And I don’t think cispeople will ever get it. Caitlyn Jenner was a woman from the beginning. Just because she started living as a woman in her sixties doesn’t negate the fact that she was a woman “pretending to be a man” for all her 50 years of existence. Yes, she probably did receive male privilege and benefited from it, but it still doesn’t remove from the fact that she was a woman who was treated and referred to as a man for 50 years. That life, that takes a whole lot of courage. And for her to finally get out of the hole she was in and become who she truly is, that took courage. And it was because of this that she got the award.
“I am watching my birth control rights, my abortion rights, my rights to toplessness, fall away. I am watching sexual predators strut around the white house. I am watching women feeding their children be yelled at harassed and shamed for the most natural act. I am being forced to see my own body as only sexual every fucking day when I get catcalled or try to go online dating. I am forced to either conform to men’s standards on my body or risk being ostracized by them. Even choosing not to wear makeup, even choosing not to want motherhood, brands me as not woman enough.”
This paragraph speaks of “women” struggles as if it only applies to cisgender women. What about women who ‘transitioned’ early in life and are now struggling with getting pregnant, being cat called, right to toplessness (because they too have boobs!), breastfeeding in public (yea! transwomen also breastfeed, and so do transmen), downright misogyny, sexism and patriarchy! What’s the issue here???
“…women who were born women…”
Yoh! So transwomen were born men? Transmen were born women???? Isn’t this transphobic already? As you go around saying “It isn’t transphobic when…” haven’t you already done the same thing you don’t want to be done to you?
Finally, what about the transgender men? Don’t they have vaginas? How come you haven’t mentioned them anywhere in your article? You speak of lesbians yes, but what about the, as you probably would say, “men who were born women”? What about their vaginas? Haven’t they, in their pretransition years, also have similar experiences to yours? Do they ever feature in your arguments? Or do their experiences don’t matter anymore because they’ve “embraced” masculinity??
Pray tell, how??
We will never end this conversation people. There will always be someone who thinks differently from the other one.