Mary Ann — Thank you for this piece and kudos for the conference you organized. This discussion is very much needed. I would like to add just one more idea regarding how we can begin to change the narrative and that is to move away from the use of the word ‘expert’. This term both in its definition as well as its common usage is much more exclusive than inclusive. We all have experiences and knowledge, some of us are perhaps more experienced and knowledgeable in certain areas, but the history of this word’s use has helped to create and enforce barriers that enshrine inequality. Eliminating its use is another small step that could be important in changing mindsets and eventual practices.