Really? He is much better than Deron Williams. If you actually looked at the advanced stats (apparently you didnt) you would fine that Rose is in fact an upgrade over Deron (better in nearly every advanced stat (besides TS% and assist rate). His per-36 stats are also significantly better. Rose is a poor defender. A fine to good offensive player and scorer (NY was 5pts better offensively with him on the court and 5 pts worse defensively). You can act like he is a third string point guard but you are simply proving my point that people are irrationally and overstating the terribleness of Rose. I find that a little interesting.