A thousand Amens! My three children, now ages 23, 21 and 17 received a POS car (piece of shit) from us when they turned 16. But they had to then get a job in order to pay for gas, car insurance and their portion of the cell phone bill. This goes on until they graduate from college, which my husband and I committed to paying for, so even as we write tuition checks, they are writing a monthly check to us for their “bills”. Also, if they don’t maintain a 3.0 GPA each semester then they are responsible for paying the student loan themselves. (My son owes $11,000 for student loans….so far). When my daughter graduated from college she also began to pay us for her portion of the group health insurance policy that comes with my husband’s retirement. And my biggest sin against (their) humanity? They had to do their own laundry beginning at age 10. Oh the horror!