Spoken like true apologists for and supporters of torture. Too bad the international treaties on torture don’t have a category for these two and their ilk. They deserve some of their own medicine. For those who took the trouble to inform themselves and be concerned, the evidence of torture and who knew about it was overwhelming years ago. Of course, nothing of any consequence will happen because that was then, and we need to look forward. That would have been a fine defense at Nurenberg. As for the comment that CIA operatives should consult lawyers before acting, it is well to remember that even our soldiers in the field are bound by international laws that are explained to them in the simplest terms. Don’t torture. It’s against the law. So even without moral judgment, as Sanger and Ignatius appear to lack, the law is clear. And finally, can we dispense with the euphemisms for torture. Techniques! A lot of codswallop. We should all keep in mind this interview with Hermann Göring:
Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.
Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.