I found the conversation infuriating and terrifying. The level of obtuseness or flat out denial was stunning. I don’t even know if I could sit in front of that kind of ignorant hate for 2 minutes, let alone 30. I shared the video on a couple of group sites and no one was happy about this interview. We were collectively enraged and frightened. TL’s kind of “thinking” if you can call it thinking, has been glossed over for a long time and now because we (I refer to any of us who have allowed this bullshit to pass without confronting it) haven’t stood unwavering with the force of our humanity, it has been allowed to be presented as an “acceptable opinion”. NO MORE. This shit has got to be stopped. Count me in and unwavering.