Weekly Journal 09/07
08/31/17 (11:10–12:30 PM)
At the beginning of class we took a quiz. For the quiz, we had to identify five gods or goddesses that have appeared so far and five warriors from the Trojan or Greek side. After the quiz, about seven minutes were allowed for questions from the books we have read so far.
The rest of the class was used to discuss book 5. Book 5 is the aristeia of Diomedes. During the aristeia, Diomedes shows great physical strength and is granted the ability to see gods by Athena.
Diomedes killed Phegues. Phegues’ brother, Idaios, fled before he could be killed but he would not look at his dead brother. Line 22 describes the implications of a father that loses a son in war. If a father only has one son, he will have no one to carry on his name or give his land and wealth to. Achilles kills Hector but he realizes the pain is going through, so he returns his body.
09/04/17 Reading for class (7:25–10:00 PM)
Book 6 begins with a listing of warriors and who they killed or who they were killed by. Menelaus captured Adrestos and was going to ransom him. Agamemnon stopped and told him that they will leave no Trojans alive. Nestor tells all the warriors to kill the Trojans and worry about plundering their things later. Hector leaves battle to tell the women to make an offering to Athene. Helen and his wife, Andromache, try to convince him to stay and not return to war. During this book, we get to see more of the relationship between Hector and his wife.
It is humorous that Diomedes stops killing everyone because Glaukos and his family have ties to Diomedes’ family.
Book 6 was the most enjoyable for me to read because I got to see the war from the Trojan warrior point of view. These men have lives, families, and friendships that are being affected by the war.
Book 7 starts with some meddling by Athene and Apollo. They tell Hector to challenge the bravest and strongest Archaian to a duel. Ajax steps forward to battle Hector. Neither one of them kill each other. They call a truce and exchange gifts as a sign of respect. The Trojans make a sacrifice to Zeus and during the feast Alexandros says that he will the Achaians treasure but he will not return Helen back to Menelaos. The Achaians built a wall around their camp and Poseidon was upset because they did not make an offering to him. The Trojans and Achaians had feasts but Zeus was throwing thunder at them. Both sides of the war went to sleep out of fear.
Book 8: Zeus tells the other gods and goddesses not to interfere in the war or they will face his wrath. Zeus comes down to help turn the tide in the favor of the Trojans. Hera is not pleased and seeks out Poseidon to help the Danaans. Agamemnon pleaded with Zeus and Zeus spared the lives of his men. Hera and Athene come down on their horses and chariots to defend the Danaans. Zeus sees them coming and sends Iris to tell them to turn around. Hector plans to kill Diomedes the next day.
I am confused because Zeus is helping the Trojans but he promised Agamemnon that they would take Troy.
- Hector and Andromache’s relationship seems different than all the other ones I have encountered so far. Andromache does not want Hector to go back to war because she fears he will never return. Hector thought about the consequences and feels he needs to fight because he is the greatest Trojan warrior. They seem to be in love with each other and value each others opinions. Paris and Helen are the cause of the war but they do not seem interested in fighting or defending the Trojans. In both cases, the women do not want their husbands to fight out of fear they will never see them again. Hector and Andromache’s relationship is similar to Menelaus and Agamemnon’s relationship. Not only do they respect each other family, but there is a friendship that each pair shares.
- 1. Apollo and Athene plot to have Hector fight with the strongest and bravest Achaian one on one. 2. Athena grants Diomedes the power to see gods during battle and urges him to hurt Aphrodite only. 3.Athene convinces Pandaros to shoot an arrow at Menelaos. 4. When the gods interfere, it is because they have an ulterior motives. Athene wants Diomedes to injure Aphrodite to teach her that she can not be the goddess of love and war.
09/05/17 Class (11:10–12:30 PM)
At the beginning of class, we talked about the formatting for journals.
Key terms: Xenia mean hospitality; foreign relations.
Hospitality is important in Greek culture. Hospitality is shown by letting people stay in your home, gift exchange, and creating a military alliance. There is a juxtaposition of the results of hospitality. Diomedes and Glaukos find hospitality between their family and they exchange gifts to end Diomedes’ aristeia. On the other hand, Diomedes kills Axylos, son of Teuthras. Teuthras was a philanthropist but none of the people he helped were around to save his son.
As I was reading lines 37–60, I thought Agamemnon was extremely harsh about killing the Trojans. Adrestos supplicated to Menelaos but Agamemnon told Menelaos to kill him anyway. Since they had been fighting for a long time, I think Agamemnon wanted the Trojans to suffer and to leave no one alive.
The complexity of Helen comes to play when Hector visits her in search for his wife. Was Helen trying to seduce Hector? I think so because he would bring her more status because he is better than Paris.
Andromache loves her husband and does not want Hector to return back to war because she knows he is going to die. It’s deeper than her loving him. Hector is the only person she can depend on. Her parents and brothers are dead.
09/06/17 Reading for Class (8:00–11:30 PM)
In lines 19–28, Agamemnon wants to leave Troy and go back home. At first, I thought it was another test of the council warriors. I find it ironic that he wants to leave now but the rest of the Achaians want to stay to see the fall of Troy.
The concept of hospitality is seen when Odysseus and Ajax go to see Achilles. Although Achilles is still unwilling to return to war, he has Patroklos fix them a drink and prepare meat for them.
Agamemnon and his council should have known that Achilles was going to turn down their gifts. They should have found another way to appeal to him. Apologizing and thanking him would have reduced his anger.
I find it interesting that Achilles is still upset about Agamemnon taking a woman he loved, when he was laying with another woman on his ship.
- Odysseus argues that Achilles will regret not fighting in the war if the Achaians lose and more people are killed. Also, he brings up what Peleus told Achilles before he left for war. Peleus warned Achilles not to let his anger get the best of him. Odysseus uses this because he know the respect and love Achilles has for his father. Odysseus lists the prizes that Achilles will get from Agamemnon for returning to the war. After Odysseus made his appeal, Achilles said he did not want anything and he would not be returning. He felt that Agamemnon and Menelaos are ungrateful. Also, Agamemnon took the woman that Achilles loves. Another reason he refused the gifts is because he is already wealthy and can have his share of women. I think Achilles wants to see Agamemnon suffer no matter what reason he gives for not wanting to return to battle. Phoenix tells Achilles the story of the Kouretes and Aitolians, who fought. Ajax basically calls Achilles out and says heartless and stubborn he is. I do not agree with his reasons for refusing their gifts and returning to war. At this point, I think Achilles is being hard headed. Too many people have died to sit back and sulk over a woman that was taken from him, that he clearly does not love because he was with another woman from Lebos on his ship.
09/07/17 Preparing for Class (8:30–9:30)
I added notes and key points that were discussed in class. Also, I went back and found lines that confused or interested me.