We haven’t asked, he hasn’t asked. I’m sure if there was something material to our business we wanted to discuss with him, we’d be able to set up a call. Just hasn’t been such a thing in many years, so there hasn’t been such a call.
Just about everyone who’s applied at Basecamp has had a job while they applied. They didn’t drop anything or take any time off. They found a few extra hours in that week to put their best ideas forward.
We didn’t write this book to change big companies, or any company really. Changing other companies isn’t something I’m particularly interested in, or capable of. It’s up to whoever runs those companies to make the change. All we can do is share our stories, our ideas, and what we’ve done with our own company. We can set an example that others can…
There’s not, I’m afraid. Kindle is available across all major platforms and devices, and of course good old paper is the most platform agnostic option there is! ;)
Thanks Karl! We hope you enjoy it. We obviously disagree with Doerr on that point, and we discuss our “no goals” and no OKR/KPI outlook in the book. Of course this is just our opinion, as Doerr’s is his. There are no truths here — do what works best for you — but be sure you know why you’re doing what you’re doing.
The actual Oprah caption in the book is different than the one we show here in the post, but there are plenty of people who are far into very successful careers who continue to put in crazy, extended hours. Habits are hard to break. What becomes easy to break, unfortunately, are relationships, friendships, and family bonds.
That isn’t a problem in our office. When everyone’s stacked on top of each other it’s a problem, or when people sit side by side, but everyone here has ample space and no one sits next to anyone else.