Does God Exist?

An interesting conversation with a believer

Jazar Shahul
4 min readJan 27, 2019

"Why do you wanna believe that God exists?" I asked.

He: Because the Book (meaning the Holy Book of his religion) says so.

Me: Is that the only proof you can give me?

He: What are you trying to say? Make your point.

Me: I want you to tell me why you want to believe in God. There must be a reason, right?

He: It says in the Holy Book. And the Holy Book hasn't been disproved ever.

Me: What if we are just a part of a bigger story?

He: Didn't get you. Come again?

Me: What if, suppose, (and this was suggested by one of my atheist friends), we are all part of a game played by a bigger world?

He: Do you have any proof for that?

(Me: Gotcha!)

Me: Do you have any proof God exists?

He: The Holy Book was written more than a thousand years ago, and still the science in it cannot be disproved.

Me: Maybe.

He: It's not maybe. 80% of what the Book said has been proved to be 100% correct. Do you think that is a coincidence?

Me: Again, what if it's a part of the game? The developers of this game called Human Beings, if they can create us, don't you think they can make us think in a certain way by manipulation?

He: There's no way a human being can be manipulated. We can make robots, but can we make a human being in that way?

Me: Fair point. But then human beings were created. What if the knowledge to make another human being was, say, not part of the program that created human beings? What if it was purposely kept away?

He: See if you keep thinking like this, you wouldn't reach anywhere. A lot of people went out of the religion by thinking up blasphemies like this. For example, there was a great scholar, who kept on thinking like this and committed a lot of mistakes. I guess he repented later.

Me: Excuse me, mistakes? Repented for what? Is this supposed to be a sin?

He: Yes, it is a sin. If we don't know who created us, don't you think it's a sin? Isn't it an act of ingratitude?

Me: And you are sure that we were created by a divine power called God?

He: I had read about a recent research conducted somewhere, don't ask me where, but in that research it was proved that humans like to believe or finds comfort in believing in a divine power.

Me: Don't you think it is because humans are inherently weak, always needing a support and belief that someone is there to watch over them, and this research would have been positive even if an older, more experienced person was the subject of thesis instead of God?

He: Uh.. I don't know. But believing in God made me a better person.

Me: How is that possible?

He: God has given us strict guidelines and rules to follow and laws to abide by. That's bound to make you a better person.

Me: If that's the case, then how did many good-hearted souls become atheists agnostics? All believers in God do all the good deeds so that they can enter Heaven, and avoid all the bad deeds so that they don't end up in Hell. Whereas, atheists do whatever goods they want to, just because they want to, and not because they believe in a God and Heaven and Hell.

He thought for some time and then said: But still they can't be perfect in all spheres of life. Following God's commands makes you a perfect person. Anyway, what is stopping you from believing in God?

Me: I don't agree to what you said about following God's commands to be a perfect person. And I didn't say anything stopped me. I was just wondering why.

(And then came the last part of the conversation)

He: Don't think too much. And it's always better to be on the safer side.

(Safer side? Need to find out!)

Me: What do you mean by this safer side?

He: Suppose when we die, and then, are reborn on the Day of Judgement, and we find that there is really a God and he has created Heaven for the good and Hell for the bad? Why to take a risk and end up in Hell?

(I knew I have won the debate just by this very last he said.)

Me: Fear? So that's what makes you believe in God, right?

END OF CONVERSATION The Humanist

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Jazar Shahul

Communist. Medico. Poet. Creative Writer. Blogger. "Give me a pen, and I'll paint your life in words, as beautiful as the galaxy."