Not Influenza: “Novel”, Coronavirus 2019, started with a death rate of 14%, now 4%(update now 2% for who dies next day, and 20% in the end of total confirmed). “Novel” is way more severe than some people want to show. See the real data…

Jiska Hachmer
Covid-19 collection
20 min readJan 28, 2020

Update 29/4 /2020

Update 27/3

Spo2 seems for Covid19 90% and a bit below up to 97% so some stay in the norm of 95%-100%. Measuring with the #oximeter app or other #spo2 apps could be smart. We could standardize measuring spo2 and temperature and pee color. It would tell more about possible covid19. These things can be done at home. And tells the doctor more about the situation.

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Pregnant need more care during covid19 and equipment home.

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CAM treatment Covid19

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Update 19/02/2020 cure Coronavirus:

People finally dare to believe the severity and normality to solve the situation. To create plans for lockdowns and to face the data.

There are more cases since November though, which we only recognize by pneumonia and a death rate of about 4%, of those cases.

update 17th of February 2020 :

(the rest below is original and other updates)

Hear the patients

It is very good to hear the exact development for the normally healthy, and how they feel they survived. Very clearly all symptoms and what treatment is and how they find the problems and what people can do to solve it.

The first day the 14th

  • fever 38celcius +

Not able to work from the third day, the 17th

  • Lung problems and felt the pain since the third day. And scans showed the problems. The 17th till 24th.

Symptoms got worse after another week, and lasted some next days, with oxygen as help to breathe. 29th toughest has past and is stable.

  • could not get up
  • tightness in chest
  • shortness of breath
  • Dyspnea

I think they need lessons on what is dark triad and what is respect and free will, and the no matter if billions would explain, complain… and the strange reaction a dark triad has to comments, like her… they only proof mental ill staff, parties …etc…they forget we understand if she says trouble breathing thus i hate this and that…and we also understand people are insane actually, and criminal to stop her from saying her opinion. We are studied on this. Both ways, if she would express, logic for a dying person. And if they are dark triad, which many are around her, as her responses now change and they refuse negative talks. So, we only now study more and more on the dark triad and will encourage more and more free speech. This is not helping what china does, and is a mental illness, we do not stop talking about, it is our job to know and help those dark triads to be normal. And to let her speak.

Hear what people also think…

As all do not know all yet and will go through many ideas and research, and collecting all types of data. All together says a lot to us.

Update 9/4 Listen to also other patients, afraid of catching the virus.

update 11/2/ 2020: The death rate of the total with the outcome is 20% means of all confirmed ill

The many that will die the next day is about 2%, but of total recovered and death is 20% death.

Novel means new.

There were some more novel coronaviruses since Sars and MERS. Now we have Corona 2019.

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/26/2019-ncov-china-epidemic-pandemic-the-wuhan-coronavirus-a-tentative-clinical-profile/

Data shows now 3–4% die. But it started with a 14% death rate. And many people can not access the hospitals, thus we do not see all cases. With Ebola many died at home, not making it to a hospital, it seems logical that, that will always be a case with viruses, some people do not make it to the care.

Track Corona

https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-outbreak-spread-tracked-in-johns-hopkins-dashboard-2020-1?international=true&r=US&IR=T

The virus mutates fastly

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1221990534643929089

https://www.businessinsider.nl/wuhan-coronavirus-research-studies-published-2020-1?international=true&r=US

Inside the town Wuhan

The real feeling of the situation. And how access is denied.

How no one helps them, who live there. And how no one gets instructions. Also, all are left to die. And how citizens see online people drop dead and are left alone. They feel no help, they get no help. Also, how a month 1 or 2 million have left the place without any instruction, nor tests. People have spread the disease everywhere, and only the last situation is tested, not the previous. And the people in power would have left to an island, leaving the citizens alone.

The sweet people in China, are not brainwashed. He explains, and I see and think, the dutch are more brainwashed than them. You hear the wisdom, and smartness, and a high level of education. And the need for more power. Like all humans, have such right to be free, and need access to everything, and need to choose themselves. That is well being, being autonomous and authentic, what he asks. Dutch are low literate, crime is out of hand, at work, there are a lot of criminals, and people refuse following the correct routes, and brainwash people, with the hope all will follow such extremists way.

https://www.coursera.org/learn/childrens-rights

https://www.coursera.org/learn/the-science-of-well-being

www.7cups.com

A little note. Why these footages of Chines telling about the feelings are important and showing the situation they live in. They deserve to know what happens and we need to inform them. Their feelings are true feelings, of being not told enough, although maybe we all do not enough, yet, patients and people in lockdown feel this way, it is not a great feeling, and we need to spend time on making them informed and feel heard, that also is better for their health. The stress of not being allowed to spread is also not helping with recovering. While we see, in our point of view they are allowed to spread, we need to think of how with a world pandemic we help everyone equally to spread data and be a part of the world. We are taught all of us can make data and we need the most data we could get. So we could have extra attention in learning everyone's academic skills, sharing the thesis, research thesis and their hypothesis. Including their feelings, as we can help with that knowledge to help change health beliefs, and its a part of social epidemiology. So the next video is not about coronavirus but a part of social epidemiology, showing circumstances people live in.

This is an ombuds cycle case.

The world needs to start the ombuds cycle, so we solve this, and keep solving it, also after soluting the situation.

We need lockdown plans, for the world, and locally.

And not forget all the details that must be in the plan, so no one feels the way, now everyone feels like. People need help. Access to listeners, and therapists, and access to doctors. Maybe the ebola approach is needed, where doctors go to the homes, instead of asking people to come to the hospitals.

https://medium.com/@jiskahachmer/lockdown-plan-during-a-virus-crisis-e7bb6767c269

Right now, after some days.

This is the core of the data of the coronavirus Wuhan. The only real, actual data, of the beginning of the spread in Wuhan.

A doctor thought that all people with corona had underlying issues, especially the ones that died from this virus. But the first data does not show that. Nor does it say it only affects older people. There were, perhaps, at the time of the market only older people that day at the market, do you bring kids every day to the market? But also children get infected. And because of the lockdown, the spread has been stopped, a lot.

Although, days, before the people were told about this virus millions, would have been in contact with the virus. So, there can be a lot more deaths than we do not match with the virus. We should check a lot more people with a lot more tests. We need data to know.

https://nypost.com/2020/01/26/9-month-old-baby-in-china-reported-to-have-coronavirus/

Doctors collapsing

The real data of the first with coronavirus 2019 in Wuhan is just here, all can see it, it is just published. People do need to learn to read it. And trust themselves while reading it. Data is for everyone. So, all can use the data. So, all need to learn to understand the data precisely.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext

Logic is the quarantine and very social of them.

A logic dutch hardly understands, or til a point, did not want to understand.

Maybe since the french cases, they get more scared and dare to think of a lockdown. But at first, people treat it like they treat the flu badly. Lots of people die from flu in our country, and they do not accept children have 9–11 infections per year and keep torturing people with neglect, bad doctors and care, and a lot of care fraud. They are not so in line with the real sciences and research, and logic with viruses. The Dutch love to say, no not a need such care and lockdown, bla bla, but did not study well on the topic. Washing hands is such a similar idea, where low literate did not wash their hands, and people kept dying, and even doctors refused, but the patients of the doctors that did wash their hands did survive a lot more times, than the patients of doctors refusing this hygiene idea. Since then, we know we must help people understand the need for care.

But dutch went another way, they went into care fraud, earning money, human trafficking and exploiting, and see care as something else. Manicly pushing the wrong way, while science is simple, the research is clear, and real studied have logic, thus understand such lockdown. And do not work with the people that now do our “jeugdwet”, and care in the country. That is involved with a lot of “apartheid”, discrimination, making people second class people, not giving equality, and the work field is full of care fraud, it is a crime scene, with judges and false papers, and false signatures, as they are not allowed to skip the normal routes, but do not like those, as it does not earn them money.

All families go through that in the country, and not only the children, just anyone. Elderly, children, families mainly. But Dutch has also had women apartheid, treated differently at the “UWV”, at doctors' offices, as they had to “toughen” up and work, those are extremely exploited for years, and now their parents, and kids, and families.

But studied people do understand, the virus is spread without a good plan, without a lockdown.

But these citizens are left alone. And the information is not getting to the people. They are left to die. They live a hell on earth. They need better information access.

So let’s study, so everyone understands. And, so we all will do better right now, as people need help now and forever, in the best ways.

note. After a few days, even dutch start to understand the realness of the virus and the tones change to force, and taking the virus seriously. As they always go from one to another side... They now need to learn the changes in the other cases, UWV, and OTS/ UHP/ “jeugdwet” etc is a social epidemiology need to change it as well, and a health belief that needs to change. So, people will be healthier if they understand what is wrong about it. Also, it is a human rights and ethics and profession codes and science rules/steps violations, and skipping real knowledge. Thus they have lots to do.

https://medium.com/@jiskahachmer/lockdown-plan-during-a-virus-crisis-e7bb6767c269

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/290193215_The_Health_Belief_Model

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2723602/

Threat level and health care.

https://english.nctv.nl/topics/terrorist-threat-assessment-netherlands

And need to study the threat level and what is wrong in the country per level, and how that affects the virus, health, and care.

level 5 terrorists have a different cause in virus, health, and care situations than a level 4, extremist, and level 3, crime at work, level 2 DSM at work, and level 1 low literacy at work, and no understanding.

Where there is a development from level 1–5 too, that's is cumulative, towards a more complex, and a standard by the book development. Just like child development and any development process.

But that affects health situations too. They need to work on all levels, and towards freedom, literacy, studying on higher levels, and with higher GPA, and task-oriented, with no DSM and Crime, myths, nor biasses at work. And simply work. That is social epidemiology and hygiene.

https://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-the-different-types-of-hygiene-systems.htm

DSM is related to poor hygiene. Crime too. Just like wars etc. Low literacy too. But hygiene is also more than just cleaning.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3430873/

https://www.medicinenet.com/poor_hygiene/symptoms.htm

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2997909/

Lessons

Similar to wash hands.

Some did not, so many people died in the past, because of that. Also, people found it an illness to wash hands. Since we wash hands, fewer people die. People were threatened by new knowledge. We need to understand health beliefs, science and change the health belief to the sophisticated ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKlpGs34-_g

There is a threat when people do not understand reality. And when people work with untrue ideas, like myths and biasses. There is, even more, a threat when people get extreme and are becoming criminal, or extremist. But these extremes start from the wrong input at the beginning. So, we need to learn the most sophisticated things, and we need to use them at work.

Work is about creating the best. Understanding and being the professional with the best information, and doing the tasks needed the best.

Being careful with the dead bodies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR4QeBg8WGk

How to treat the terminally ill?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC406380/

We need the information from the source

We need to work precisely with all the data. When we are task-oriented and collect the data, we can study and solve, and help the people.

There will be more science needed, as there is this strange outbreak 7km away from the market, and all around the market is the source.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLp8CHeKQkI

Us, keeping it down, will not help. Us, helping them to keep this information down will not help.

Also, us, not studied enough will not help. We need to keep studying this and keep solving this, even after soluting. In science we keep studying, also in the ombuds cycle, over time we know more, also, we need to keep preventing faults to happen, we do that by never stopping the studies.

Task-oriented to solve the situation correctly

It is factual, just the facts.

  • Not all had been to the food market.
  • All cases in sight had pneumonia.
  • Half of those had short breath.
  • Less than half had other issues before pneumonia.
  • The pneumonia was really from the virus.
  • And 30% of men had underlying issues.
  • But all the other patients had way less % underlying issues.
  • Most men were infected.

What does this mean?

It could be that there were more men that day at the market. It sounds logic with the elderly, because of their age to have underlying issues, but that is not what the data shows. Just 30% of the men had underlying issues, thus it is then only 30% the reason why men had more problems than women. There are still 70% with no underlying issues.

Also, flues give sometimes heart attacks, and some seasons more among men more than among women.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/01/24/579997381/aw-seriously-the-flu-can-trigger-a-heart-attack-too

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/can-the-flu-trigger-a-heart-attack/

Another RNA reason?

There could be another RNA reason among men why they are infected more than women. But it sounds like, more men were at the market. Could that be? They were selling all day, thus infected all day long? Women buying and leaving, infecting their husbands, thus even more men ill in total? And it is an elderly market? Thus fewer kids got ill?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLp8CHeKQkI

FFI is an example of changes in RNA shape, I suggest we look at that with these viruses…

https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/fatal-familial-insomnia/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6097508/

my, hypothesize, since I saw FFI disease and corona in the same week…. I just linked it, as I learned both are RNA diseases. And the shape changes can be done by a virus. https://twitter.com/1jiska1/status/1221961569896140806

note. bats and FFI could be an interesting study too. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2094861/

We have to be careful, and can not pretend this is influenza, this is a new corona.

And the cities are locked down, we do not do that with influenza. We might do that from now on, but, with this Coronavirus, we now have a lower number of deaths, then if the cities were not locked down.

6 out of 41 deaths. 14%. And not shown in the data if these deaths had the underlying issues, and which one precisely.

In total less than half of them had underlying issues, could simply be caused by the age of the average person going to this market, and the age of the average working at the market. As simple as more men were working all day at the market. And if the virus spreads the data can change, as more people get infected, not only people who have been at the market.

  • Women had not the same circumstances as men?
  • Kids were not at the market as much, just like the women?
  • And cities, even the country was closed down.
  • All the people that went out of the country, are checked.

Lots of people are ill, we only see the pneumonia patients, we are not testing enough people to know who has it, and if they have underlying issues, and if then all men have more likely the virus than women, and if children then are not having symptoms, and the virus. We do not know, thus we can not pretend we know.

Also, this virus is a deadly pneumonia virus. Do all cases have pneumonia? And, do we get to all patients? Lots of people can not get to care.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3047631/china-coronavirus-death-toll-rises-41-over-1000-cases-infection

Influenza 2019

https://www.pharmacytimes.com/news/flu-activity-high-during-last-week-of-2019-continues-to-rise

This was 2019 flu: 6.4 million ill, 55.000 hospitalized, 2900 deaths.

Countries might have differences with the flu, but these numbers show, 0.05% dies when being hospitalized with flu. And 0.009% will be hospitalized when having flu. 0.0005% dies of the flu.

Age average USA: 38 years old.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States

In a “grey” country, the flu is a bit different.

Netherlands: Dutch think 3–5 million have severe flu per year, and 250.000 and 500.000 die of the flu. That would be 10% of severely ill.

In the Netherlands: 800.000 ill each year. 250-2000 die. That is 0.03% -0.2% 90% of the death would be older. Average age Netherlands: 42 years.

Ages 75 years and older died a lot more in 2018 than in another year. And almost 10.000 deaths more that year, because of the flue.

https://www.rivm.nl/monitoring-sterftecijfers-nederland

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griep

Novel corona 2019:

581 infected. 95 severe. 17 deaths

It is 16% severely ill, and 18% of that severely ill died, and 3% death of total. With the close down. As all is closed down. So, when not closed down, this rate can be higher.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200123-sitrep-3-2019-ncov.pdf

https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-hnk-intl-01-24-20/index.html

1000 ill and 41 death. 4% death

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3047631/china-coronavirus-death-toll-rises-41-over-1000-cases-infection

2700 82 death. 3–4% death. But this is at least death. Many people have no access to hospitals.

https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-01-27-20-intl-hnk/index.html

Corona before:

MERS 2494 858 deaths 34% died

SARS 8437 813 deaths 9.5% died

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/coronavirus-symptoms-vaccines-risks-200122194509687.html

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1628163/

This new deadly Coronavirus could be caused by bats, and this corona by bats infecting snakes, and from snakes to human.

Update 17/2 /2020

(the rest is original text)

https://www.whatsorb.com/climate/corona-virus-flu-and-climate-change-is-there-a-connection

So how far can bats travel?

They cross the open sea. A 1000km they can fly over the open sea. So infected bats can come here.

Is it simply bat season?

Bad weather season, and a time where bats spread all flue, coronavirus, and other viruses?

Bats change winter to summer habitats.

https://www.bats.org.uk/about-bats/a-year-in-the-life-of-a-bat

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/248646702_Conservation_of_bats_in_China_problems_and_recommendations

http://theconversation.com/snakes-could-be-the-original-source-of-the-new-coronavirus-outbreak-in-china-130364

So, I wonder the next, do we Dutch get the season flues, and viruses, because bats then live with us, to survive the winter?

In between old dutch houses.

What would be the spread? Living with us, while they sleep, during winter.

When moving from summer to winter, they infect us? Or in winter when they sleep next to us? And then when infected, we spread from human to human?

When we travel to their summers, from our cold winters we travel along with them and the virus to their warmer places? And take that home with us?

Does the cold weather make it worse? Spreading around their viruses? The bats sleep in the cold, but like dead bodies, would they still be contagious?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1234056/Coronavirus-are-bats-spreading-China-virus-symptoms-Wuhan-coronavirus-news

Are there more possibilities, and therefore sometimes a summer flue season. Or is it why, there are sometimes more viruses at once, in a heavy season, and then other times, sometimes a late-season, or early season, because there are simply more ways of getting the viruses? And the bats were doing things differently a year.

Coronavirus affects mainly bats or cats, thus human, and, whale, mice, and rabbits. We are the same family.

Monkeys evolved from this same parent we all shared.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/phenomena/2013/02/07/meet-the-ancestor-of-every-human-bat-cat-whale-and-mouse/

Bats mainly are infected by arthropods.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30576861

Snake infected the bat.

https://earthsky.org/human-world/snakes-original-source-china-coronavirus-outbreak

Update 10/2 More ancient viruses will cause such epidemic

Treating pneumonia

Diets for DNA, RNA, pneumonia, coma, and all symptoms with coronavirus 2019.

I think we need to strenghten DNA, and keep the RNA in the right shapes, if they change shapes they cause death, and this is an RNA virus. I think we need to prepare for the pneumonia, especially because it can come without symptoms, also coma can come without symptoms.

I think we should prepare for getting people out of come with diets, with medicine.

Conclusion

Cities have been locked down, right away, so the data at first shows a 14% death rate. Did we get that rate down by closing all? We do have now a rate of 3–4% of the death rate. And we know who gets pneumonia from this virus can die, half of them will show short breath, 30% had underlying issues, most were at the beginning men with this virus. But we do not know what would have happened if we did not close all.

And it could be caused by bats. Then it could be caused by arthropods, but is this time perhaps caused by a snake. If so, these snakes or anthropods and bats can cause a virus that can cause pneumonia and then of the ones with pneumonia 3% — 14% dies, depending on lockdowns or not. What to do with the bats, anthropods, and snakes?

And more men ill, is that an RNA problem among men?

note. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HspStZXo1rU v

Update 2/2/2020: About more men ill, there are more men living in china. USA shows more death among women with pneumonia the past years. And that is 25% more. So, the two countries together show the differences among men and women.

Also, death from symptoms is 14 days. We need to measure amount of ill about 14 days ago and then the deaths 14 days afters, to see the death rate.

124 of the severe ill (that has been 1370 severe ill) have recovered. On the day when 7816 were confirmed ill, and suspected 12000 -78000 were infected. (Day 10 of Coronavirus after the first Wuhan case of 41 ill and 6 death)

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Updates

Hachmer, J. (4th of February, 2020) We might search for creating antibodies on a distance, even more than vaccines, at least to strengthen the body against viruses and to create antibodies in the best ways. Medium Retrieved from https://medium.com/@jiskahachmer/we-might-search-for-creating-antibodies-on-a-distance-even-more-than-vaccines-at-least-to-49eae9f09186

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