Joe Rogan Experience #1080 — David Goggins

JJ McRae
13 min readMar 11, 2019

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My notes from the podcast with #davidgoggins that was filmed over a year ago. Thanks for any and all comments especially from the #JRE crew.

Two sick people talking about getting healthy and the struggle that exists in these physical and mental transitions.

JRE- David Goggins

He grew up being a clown, then he found solace in physical activity because his mental capacity was on a lower level than his peers.

He is not a theorist — You put a sword in a fire, repeatedly and beat it. Then again and hit it harder. Till finally, he was a practitioner. You cant dissect it when it’s in 70 and sunny weather. You need to freeze it, or fire it till it’s beat the fuck up and callused. Very disciplined while also being sadistic.

Why are you this pussy? I must look at this and beat the pussy out of me with repeated failure. And I’m not mad, it wasn’t a merry fucking Christmas, I got my ass beat every day on paradise road, let me take you there, let me take you to “paradise” and beat your ass. Then ask you what you want.

I ain’t going to get there the same way you get there, I’m just a different thinker, I may bounce around, but I’ll get there.

It must end, the suffering must stop, the golden years are the finish line when it doesn’t exist.

The origin — didn’t know where to start — start with the psoas muscle and trying to unknot it.

I know how to self motivate — I know how to do that — never music while running. External things — people need it to stay motivated and do whatever, when you’re in the fight, when it is not there “how do you fire yourself up?” Not this, (while chin-ups on ropes) When you get popped in the mouth, and your headphones are gone — no music — what do you do? Running with music is cheating — Running with audiobooks — independently.

Pull up record — rd 14–2:13 seconds for 17 hours — dark, dark, evil place “I can do anything here” — 67,000 pull-ups —

2012 — $30,000 — go fuck yourself
Then I went into 2018 — $300,000 offer — one-second decision — biggest trophy I own (is this book). Nothing more than the journey, you have to struggle, bigger the suffering the bigger the peace.

Used to make $60,000 year —

Connection over the pitfalls in life — everyone is going through it — the human story about struggle — so many situations of struggle and there WILL be a way to think about a section of the book that will help you self reflect on your life —

Some self-help books are shit — it’s not working one hour in and getting itchy — ill kill it — this was opposite — I was running extra miles to stay with the headphones — powerful book.

Big fat fuck motivator — you are weak and meat vehicle — looked soft — wake up bitch — you are not a motivator —

I see them — I know them — I wouldn’t be able to come on this show unless I grind — If I’m a bullshit artist “which I was” — 24 fat with milkshakes — All I wanted was to change the miserable fat fuck in the mirror — That’s why I do this, not for the fame, I did this. I fucking did this.

This is not the secret — this ain’t no attraction — this is straight up.

Your self-help by realizing there are no short cuts and no finish line — enjoy the suck or waste away.

Those people want to bring you back in — you hang around people who bring you down, the people who are still there, they try and bring you in. Hang out with the people you want to be the most, the excuses people are the vacuum that suck out the energy to grind, the people around you will fuck you and will always fail and come to you for help, do this for you, don’t look for external support.

This book is primitive, it’s barbaric, we get soft and go towards these computers.

You don’t use your mind when it comes to endurance — let me google how to suffer — there is no answer — find some water, real cold — mind in mathematics and literature — don’t over think it — put your shoes on and lace them up.

You must attack and keep attacking, you MUST BREAK THE SOUL OF ANYTHING THAT STANDS IN YOUR WAY, you must break the soul by not stopping your attack, they must know that you are not going to end, I never broke the soul of anything before. I devised ways to break down a human being, an object of anything in front of me.

Nothing wants to stand in front of anything that is relentless.

It takes one second of energy to STEAL everyone else’s — and then you have all that you need. (This quote was after the story about “boat crew 2” and then “stealing the souls (and boners) of the instructors of HELL WEEK for the seals)

My mom looked at me going into a pond in November in Indianapolis and then running with my shirt freezing and seeing dang this guy is OBSESSED WITH BEING SOMEBODY. And I went from a 300lbs kid to a 190lbs man in three months to make the fitness test of the navy.

That’s my issue with the whole body slicing and stapling. If you just took the time to lose the weight, you will have earned it and in that keep it or keep it off.

You must scar to grow, without friction there is no growth.

19 hours of suck, I lived and grew years within those hours.

You don’t appreciate rest until you’ve earned it. People don’t enjoy rest until they have earned it.

You need to get a full range of motion before you know genuinely how fucked up you are. Don’t go to the knife before you know your full range of motion. I do yoga, but I do my version for my bodies needs, and that is holding positions for a long time.

I don’t do that. To this day it is for me to become better mentally. How I look has just become (this was after Joe asked if David has ever had a trainer or reads physiology books or news on how to do things better)

I do exercise and repetition for my mind, I want to continue to harden my mind cause that’s the only thing I want, that’s what I want, I want to have that mind ready for life (That mind? — not his mind, THAT MIND — ***This is a profound statement and 100 the truth in his tone and presentation.

Fuck all that bullshit — lets get to the weeds and the fact that you are fucking yourself up by not opening that shit up and examining the brain, you are not examining your brain — (after talking about his 100 mile race that was done for his fallen soldiers then to the LV marathon and “walking” with his mom, instead he owned the race by owning his mind and the pain that was trying to shit him down and slow him down. Fuck all that.

Examine your brain and to do that it takes suffering and if your not willing to do that, I’m sorry.

Do you ever ah feel like … Ahh SHUT THE FUCK UP, STOP.

Procrastination — Screenshot

I procrastinate every damn day! Fuck all that.

People look at me like I’m some guy, some god who came from the heavens and earth, Nah man, I don’t want to do this shit.

Sometimes there’s no room for procrastination and those are the beautiful days…

When I was in the military, I loved my schedule, cause I had to get my shit in, before I got my shit in and that was my mentality. We had to be at work at 7am, and so I was up at 4am suffering, I had to get my miles in cause I was competing with the alpha males (The males that were TRYING to take his soul, the souls he knew he needed to make first.)

Me — what if your bread uncompetitive or 2nd place is ok?

I wasn’t the most humble person always — I wasn’t really liked in the SEAL — when your around alpha males, your sometimes picking a fight, all the time, and I looked different, I acted, and I am different, and I take a lot of pride in that, and so if you didn’t get after it, I didn’t respect you. Human potential is what we have, its what we all have, the world sees us a certain way, and when I started noticing that, I had a funky ass attitude.

I own it in my book, I come back from ranger school a prominent time leader, I led by example.

It’s a disgusting human being that I can be. ( after talking about how people want to graduate those schools when I tried to live them, every morning was the 1st day, is the 1st day of hell week.)

When I found out what the human body/mind was capable of, I didn’t know how to control that, you want to talk about a fucking savage… people talk about that lightly, I was from the backwoods fucking savage, I told you what I thought, I had eight chips on my shoulder, and um, a lot of times that wasn’t great…

These are grown ass men, you know, they didn’t want to be what I was trying to make them be and when they called me off, I got my chip, and we developed of guerilanimals and everyone else just started doing their thing, I was the same guy that put people on a pedestal, then when I got up there with them i didn’t see this,

They were trying to find chinks in my armor — airforce, army loved me, and the seals didn’t. I was the team guy, but I wasn’t apart of the brotherhood, but I’m not going to talk wrong about them.

I’m different, I should have been more of a leader, but some people should have been harder.

What was it? Not brotherhood.

My face called you a pussy, I also had this separation. I don’t go out, I don’t party, I’m an introvert, I do my job, and then I don’t want to see you again. I was a different fucking cat, I think differently, I belief strongly what I believe in and I was setting a high bar, and it became a big soap opera, and in this “fraternity” they respected what I did but rubbed people the wrong way.

I’m like that itch, you want to scatch me.

Unpotential is the story of many peoples lives.

My biggest fear is, I don’t care if you believe in god, I’m dead in heaven and you’re judging us. You talk to god, and he says read this…
Awesome
Record
Awesome

I say that’s not me, God says that was supposed to be you. Something is going to judge me. I want them to have a board that has all the stuff, and when I get up there to impress the end judge with nothing left of the table, I want to drain my soul of every bit of a person.

I believe about going back to scratch, I’ve had to accept a lot of shit I’ve done, and data is where I got to this place, I have a lot of faults and so how you get better is being from way down here.

I call it ( when I was 8–12) we live at the 7 dollars a month home. That place made me this man, that place is going back to scratch, going back to the fundamentals, studying more, taking that and going for more, we go back to the beginning for me.

What kind of goals?

Stretching helps a lot, yoga and stretching, you want to be quiet in your mind, the noise in your mind must stop, you can’t search with all the noise, quit it down.

I ring the ragout in the morning, and then I get to chill.

Most don’t. The chatter of the day takes over, I should have x y z. Why don’t people like me!?

Long cardio beats the testosterone up.

We are like a battery that is leaking out. We don’t use it, and it oozes out and messes things out. If you drain that shit like nature intended like the basics, when you drain it you can then be you.

PURGE ALL THAT DEMON SHIT OUT. Pound the demon shit out.

Different thing available after the effort. You have to enjoy yourself.

ACCOUNTABILITY MIRROR — BIG PLANNER — WILDLAND FIREFIGHTER

Why did you do that?

The work, you know when your hands start to become not really callous? That’s when you need to get back to work.

Retired from the military — did 21 years in the military, loved everything about it.

The money you make is nil, it’s the hard work, you dig a 3-mile fire line and its 20–18, and you have twelve people to dig this shit and its the challenge that you can’t get in the gym. 16–17 hours, get your mat down and sleep — 2–3 weeks doing this — no one is watching.

Looking for the next challenge, I’m 43, getting the health issue settled, hardest race in the world and jobs, wildland firefighter, smoke jumpers, attack small fires, hotshot dudes, dig fire lines, that looks like it sucks, that’s what I want to do,

I’m never satisfied, where are the uncommon men and women, I want to grow, you looking for those different people, a lot of things I want to say and I can’t say all of it, I need to find people who GET IT to get more tools to put in the shed to arrive at new journeys.

Why is a 43-year-old man out here in the trenches and I tell them its to learn from you and grow — WOOW *** profound

I want to never forget where I came from, that mentality. I want to never lose that mentality, I want to never get to “I did it” never I want to go to work, those are the sparks, motivation is the spark, a cigarette in the woods then CA is in flames.

The spark gets a patch, to bigger fuel. KEEP UP WITH THE 20’s kids. That can be used your whole life, you’re not done today. Not today.

Smoke Jumping is my next military, it’s human growth, not the money, no crowd, no finish line, by no one cheering you on, every morning when I train it’s on me, no one even knows what I’m doing on a regular but you don’t have a fucking clue. Hours each day and no ones knows.

You are not doing this for the show.

I got my one minute on,

Instagram one minute videos,

My fiance does these videos. Wake up I got some shit, WAKE UP, when I’m working out I get this inspiration, that’s when my mind works best, that gargoil shit, Ill run home and meet me at 17th street and ill get my shit straight by then. I want to give back, being me.

You are my usher, and I am Bieber, somehow your crowd gets me, and my site, I’m not fucking with people playing around, troll my shit I will block your monkey ass, I have developed a small community, and people are losing pounds and breaking themselves down. And a community of people is trying to get people up and grinding.

These people are now my fuel, 600,000 looking at me where is GOGGINS, you ain’t never fucking alone, when you’re working out, there is a good chance at the same time we are getting at it together, not like happy family shit, like we are getting at it.

It’s not time for some soft shit, this is not any playground, if you want to get hard, stop thinking and get grinding, lace that up.

Rest and recovery — Block, Delete.

People looking for built-in excuses. While also there are people looking for momentum when you get going and past the hurdle, you can get going. And its a movement.

I know who David Goggins is and I don’t care anymore about what you think, and that’s without lying, no lying. Once you get to that if you don’t like me FUCK YOU keep moving. You are on your own path, get the sneaks on.

I have to now humble myself again. You’re a rookie again. You have to always humble yourself and go back to the beginning. I want to keep that dog in me, I want to learn new things and grow.

Did you fuck around with MMA — Nashville BJJ — You’d get obsessed. Here we go, no hiding, choked or don’t. I think you’d get obsessed with it, its constant competition. White belt is going to get choked out a lot.

Your mind has a tactical advantage over you, it knows your fear and your insecurities, it has a tactical advantage over you, YOU CAN’T HIDE. THAT MIND. ITs a beast, it’s going to get you. You might as well beat that mother fucker up, it’s not going anywhere.

You can tell when people are stoking themselves, and you had no filter with this book, its all on the pages.

The hardest thing I’ve ever done — what you thinking about mother fucker… WHAT ABOUT YOU!? They get at me, they come

You’re chipping away at yourself when you talk shit, If your talking shit, I know you’re fucked up, oh 15 years ago you still tripping about that?

If you’re worried about things, you ain’t worried about your monkey ass, cause I will always get on my grind, all the hate is filtered out during the grind. It helps you grow up to grind out that hate.

The exposure helps you, forces you to be consistent, I know I can slip, and I have to keep it up day in and day out.

Those people that are looking for the golden age does not exist, I thought it was tattoed, you cant take a day off….

NO DAYS? Can’t take a day off — *** screenshots

Get after it means just DO SOMETHING EVERYDAY.

Its all about the heart rate — the resting heart rate

I cut a minute off by just opening up my range of motion. I went from Zone 2 at 8:30 min miles to 7:19 min miles.

Not down with the barefoot shoes, I was born wearing shoes, and I’m black, but I’m not from Africa. Hell no, I don’t believe in that.

Thank you, I appreciate you, thank you and see you in a white belt and gi soon, Nashville Tennessee

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JJ McRae

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