You do not consider gun control to be an ideological war? Interesting.
Bill St. Clair
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Sigh…

Okay, so I tried to be nice and only mildly insulting, but clearly, that’s not going to work here, you keep coming back, so fine, now it’s time to kick the puppy.

No, you inane clot, I do not consider gun control to be an ideological issue any more than I consider automotive safety or elevator safety to be an ideological issue. I consider it to be at most, an unfortunate choice of name getting in the way of sensible things that would greatly increase gun safety without impinging on anyone’s second amendment rights any more than the rules we have limiting any of the rest of our constitutional rights take those away. No, nothing can make anything perfectly safe, but to use that as an excuse to do nothing at all is precisely as stupid as removing all forms of safety equipment and inspections from airplanes because we still have airplane crashes.

Only an idealogue insists on everything or nothing.

I’ve no interest in listing the various ways to meaninfully increase gun safety that come nowhere near a ban on private ownership of guns here, because you’ve already made up your mind, and I’ve no interest in wasting time with a true believer. In any event, I’d might mistakenly use “clip” instead of “magazine” and you’d use that nit as an excuse to dismiss everything else I say. It’s right in line with what your sort does.

As far as the taxation goes..ye gods, you sit there on an internet that was created and initially built by tax dollars, (and still receives a large amount of money from that), you get at least vaguely clean water because of taxes, you drive on an interstate system built and maintained by taxes, your food is at least vaguely clean and safe to eat because of taxes, your computer is based on technology that was created by research funded by taxes, most of the medical research that keeps your hypocritical ass alive is funded by taxes, the hospitals you go to when you are sick or injured could not survive without tax dollars, the building inspectors that at least try to ensure the building you are in is safe to live in and won’t collapse on your hypocritical ass are funded by tax dollars, the firemen who will risk their lives to save your ungrateful ass are paid for by tax dollars…

Literally, everything that allows you the time to shit on the things that gave you the stable, first world country you grew up in is at least partially, if not fully funded by tax dollars in its creation, if not its maintenance, and tax credits to encourage investment most surely do fucking count, my hypocritical commenter, and there is no chance in hell you will give up one speck, one single atom of those benefits, all the while working to ensure those who come after you have so much less than you do in the name of some fuckwitted idiocy like “builds character”.

Bullshit. You want to blather on about taxes, then stop benefiting from them *entirely*. But do not sit here on the fucking Public Internet and lecture me about how taxes are evil.

And no, before you even start, none of this is perfect, because people are imperfect sorts. And the failures are epic in scale at times. But the people involved with such things are trying very hard to make it better every day, something alien to you.

People like you are a dead weight dragging back everyone across the political spectrum who, even though they disagree on many things, are trying to do the very hard work of making things better. They stumble, they fail as much as they succeed, and they deserve better than the moronic criticism of people like you, pining for the grand old days of the 1870s when there was no middle class, child labor was all the rage, non-honkies knew their place, women died in childbirth like mayflies, things like Bhopal are just “oops, the price of doing business”, the Exxon Valdes was actually beneficial as an experiment in open oil distribution, and the dream of every poor person was nothing more than one day being the foot in the boot on their neck.

Lemme tell ya sylvester, even if you own the boot, you’ll never be the foot in it. You’ll just convince yourself that it’s not all that bad really.

Not only are you and your lot ungrateful to the millions of people in the public and private sector who work hard every day to ensure you have the benefits of a first-world country and the time to complain so bitterly about them, but you’re cruel. You’re casually, arrogantly cruel.

You celebrate the idea of a world where dying because a hospital refused to treat you because you’re poor is your fault for being poor and sick. You dream of a world where the poor die in ditches, only bothered when they inconvenience you. After all, if they were worthwhile, they’d be rich. Like you. (No, I don’t actually think you’re rich. Which makes your stances even more hilariously ignorant.)

You dream and pray for this “survival of the fittest” world, never once even considering that you’re probably not one of the fittest. That in your brave new world which most closely resembles an unmonitored middle-school playground, you’re never going to be the bully. You’re going to be the kid with the atomic wedgie, the bloody nose, and no lunch money, full of impossible dreams where you’re finally not getting your ass beat.

Find someone else to annoy. I’m sure you’ve a long list.

<edit: bugger all this for a lark, i’m just blocking your ass.>