The Second Debate — Animosity, Lies, etc. All the coverage that you can possibly read!
For my daily newspaper, I began to curate all the articles of interest that I could find on the debate — and they were legion and many fact-checking works are, in my judgement, very important — so I’ve gathered them all here and hope that readers will spend time at least with the fact checking links.
The opinion pieces all, with one exception, strongly favor Hillary Clinton — and I did look for others, scanning the Wall Street Journal (none) and New York Post (one). The one that I did find, by John Podhoretz, opines that “Trump Trounced Hillary”.
The pieces curated come from Nate Silver’s FiveThirty Eight, the Los Angeles Times, New York Daily News, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, New York Post, and New York Times. The links follow (right click on them to open) — as well as a list of lies, contained in a David Leonhardt column in the New York Times.
FiveThirtyEight’s Nate Silver on Debate — http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-second-debate-probably-didnt-help-trump-and-he-needed-help/
FiveThirtyEight Debate Recap — http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/obamacare-aleppo-and-coal-the-second-debate-had-substance-too/
LA Times Fact Checking — http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-first-presidential-debate-fact-check-sg-storygallery.html
LA Times Article on Trump’s Campaign Problems With Women — http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-campaign-insults-women-20161009-snap-htmlstory.html
LA Times’ Catherine Decker on the Debate — http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-second-debate-analysis-20161010-snap-story.html
NY Daily News Fact Checking — http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/fact-checking-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-2nd-debate-article-1.2824170
NY Daily News’ Mike Lupica on Debate — http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/lupica-trump-fight-debate-late-article-1.2824372
David Cay Johnston (my guest on the radio show on 10/16) on Trump’s Atlantic City mess — http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/david-cay-johnston-trump-atlantic-city-debacle-article-1.2821933
NY Post on the Debate — http://nypost.com/2016/10/10/trump-debated-better-than-expected-but-poll-shows-clinton-won/
Al Hunt (in NY Post) on Hillary — http://nypost.com/2016/10/09/hillary-clintons-secret-weapon-her-ground-game//
New York Post’s John Podhoretz on Debate — http://nypost.com/2016/10/10/focused-trump-trounces-hillary-at-testy-second-debate/
New York Post’s Mike Goodwin on Debate — http://nypost.com/2016/10/10/sharp-jabs-made-for-most-explosive-debate-in-decades/
Washington Post’s EJ Dionne on Debate — https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2016/10/09/718556e4-8e93-11e6-9c85-ac42097b8cc0_story.html
Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin on Debate — https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/10/09/the-second-debate-the-end-of-trump/
Washington Post’s Dana Milbank — https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/at-the-second-presidential-debate-a-trump-at-odds-with-everyone-and-everything/2016/10/10/ceb508a8-8ea4-11e6-9c85-ac42097b8cc0_story.html
Washington Post Republican Party Biggest Loser — https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2016/10/10/daily-202-more-than-trump-the-republican-party-was-the-biggest-loser-in-last-night-s-debate/57fb0c74e9b69b0592430208/
Washington Post on Bill Clinton’s Accusors at Debate — https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/10/trumps-debate-plan-to-seat-bill-clintons-accusers-in-family-box-was-thwarted/
Wall Street Journal on Debate (Walled Content) — http://www.wsj.com/articles/goals-for-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-as-debate-kicks-off-campaigns-stretch-run-1476054635
NY Times Debate in Brief — http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/10/opinion/campaign-stops/trumps-second-debate-in-brief.html
NY Times Maureen Dowd on the Debate — http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/09/opinion/sunday/donald-goes-to-the-dogs.html
NY Times Nicholas Kristof on Trump Groping — http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/09/opinion/sunday/donald-trump-groper-in-chief.html
NY Times Comments by the Editorial Editor David Leonhardt — http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/10/opinion/campaign-stops/trumps-second-debate-in-brief.html
(if you go to the article, all the links about the lies are “hot”)
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He lied about a sex tape.
He lied about his lies about ‘birtherism.’
He lied about the growth rate of the American economy.
He lied about the state of the job market.
He lied about the trade deficit.
He lied about tax rates.
He lied about his own position on the Iraq War, again.
He lied about ISIS.
He lied about the Benghazi attack.
He lied about the war in Syria.
He lied about Syrian refugees.
He lied about the San Bernardino terrorist attack.
He lied about Hillary Clinton’s tax plan.
He lied about her health care plan.
He lied about her immigration plan.
He lied about her email deletion.
He lied about the rape of a 12-year-old girl.
He lied about his history of groping women without their consent.
Finally, he broke with basic democratic norms and called on his political opponent to be jailed — because, in large part, of what he described as her dishonesty
This is the second time I’ve summarized a presidential debate by listing
Donald Trump’s untruths, and there’s a reason. The country has never
had a presidential candidate who lies the way that he does — relentlessly.
Yes, virtually every politician, including Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Mitt Romney and George W. Bush, strays from the truth at times. To be fair, virtually every human being does. But Trump is fundamentally different.
His gamble is plain enough: He believes he can fool a lot of the American people a lot of the time. He has decided that lying pays.
It’s up to the rest of us to show him otherwise.
What I’m reading: As you know if you’ve been reading this newsletter, I’m sometimes critical of my own profession. The media is far from perfect, and we should grapple with our shortcomings.This morning, however, I want to salute my peers — at Politico, Politifact, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, NPR, The New York Times and many other places — who have answered Trump’s fabrications with facts. I encourage all of you to dig into the links above.The full Opinion report from The Times follows, including Maureen Dowd, Roxane Gay, Viet Thanh Nguyen, Andy Rosenthal, Will Wilkinson and others on the debate.