That’s not “the key element of fascism”; that’s something any tyranny, including any fascist…
Kady M.

The point is that both extremes are tyrannical.

Actually, your assertion was that “ The current crop of ‘leftists’ in the US would not have bothered the German fascists in the least. All they would have to do is channel their energies.” Which is as utterly ludicrous on its face as in its details. The politics of the American left (such as it is) — the free, open, pluralistic, multicultural liberal democracy — are anathema to fascism; its negation. One of the things its born to destroy.

Yawns. It’s much more attractive, isn’t it, to simply inpune rather than discuss?

I discussed it in the part you cut, so we can set that aside. The effort to portray fascists as some sort of form of leftism is a major effort by a segment of the crackpot right and throwing around some variant on “It seems necessary here to remind everyone that the name of Hitler’s party was the ‘National Socialists’” in an effort to exploit ignorance of the fascists’ use of the word is always the opening of that particular can of worms. But that’s a can that is, for anyone with more than a minimal knowledge of the subject, a laughable non-starter. If, in going through this, I’m curt, it’s because I find it exhausting after having had to do it far too often. One is going about a perfectly normal conversation and someone suddenly drops in the notion that the moon landings were faked or Obama is a socialist Muslim from Kenya.

Where we are now is quibbling on the exact definition of fascist principles. Is it what Hitler actually DID, or is it the 25 point program? Because there’s little question that the 25 point program contains socialistic principles which are associated with today’s progressive leftism. It also contains principles that are associated with US far-right movements. So, what standard are you using for your “fascism meter”? Hitler’s “party platform”, or his actual actions?

The 25-point program was a propaganda document. Hitler, who was contemptuous of that sort of programmatic politics, refused to reproduce it in “Mein Kampf,” where he referred to it dismissively as “the so-called programme of the movement.” He later declared it “inalterable” in an effort to shut down ideological infighting in the movement. There’s much actual Nazism in the program but its more radical planks, the ones on which the Goldbergists lovingly dote, were simply abandoned after the Nazis seized power — they were neither carried out nor were they ever meant to be.