Week #11- Plutarch Gets IN- Formation with Women’s Virtue

If its its a mans world how are women supposed to fit in ?

Thursday April 6,2017 — Blackburn Reading Room — 0:30

Plutarch the Feminist? Introduction

It may of particular importance to understand a little more about who Plutarch was both then and now as a writer.Who was responsible for works like ;

  • Life of Antony
  • Isis and Orisis
  • Moralia- Virtues of Women

M: Continuation of a discussion about the virtues of women addressed to his friend Clea in a collection of 27 anectodotes . The stories and tales told range from individual leadership roles or that from a group decisions composed of just women.

Target Questions :

  • How Plutarch claims he will make his case, and whether he follows his plan;
  • How Plutarch’s female protagonists gain power, what kinds of qualities and actions he praises as exemplary of women’s virtue, and what the consequences of those actions are for those women and their communities;
  • What kinds of men populate the stories Plutarch includes, and how their characters are used to highlight women’s virtue;
  • The connections between manliness, womanliness, and success as a leader;
  • How we should situate Plutarch in modern discussions about feminism based on his narratives.

Hopefully by the time we complete this module some of these retrospects can be fully explained and examined in its position in Feminism within the literary field (amongst many others )


The main goal of our author is to intrinsicaly prove to those in his century and cultural community that a way of traditional standing may have been mistaken and how they should take on a more modern veiw in the equality of it all.
Friday April 7, 2017 — Health Sciences computer lab — 1:00

“the virtue of a man and of a women are one and the same”.- Plutarch. Moralia- Preface

Step One :Assessing Plutarch’s claims about female leadership

Listening to Leadership -
Of course in a time where women were looked at no more than a piece of property or an extradited tool for the power and works of another man’s policy it was hard for a singular person to just come and turn such a way of thinking over on its head. Right now going into it Plutarch is depending on the hype of his prior work and devotion his fans must feel for him in order to present a stubbornly ignored truth. In such a time he risked being considered a social pariah for his unscrupulous claims but his ability to respond in such a way was a reaction to what he saw as potential being lost for a pretty gratuitous reason. In such a time his words may not be taken seriously by many of those in power or influencing positions, in this time we can assume that such collection consisted widely of men. These men, in particular, are used to hearing, seeing, and learning in this misogynist and masculine archetype for years and now out of the blew a contrasting view from much less a writer is joining the discussion? While to the crowd, it could pass over like most phases and interesting trends do but f0r Plutarch, who makes a living off of his craft, one false move could land him either homeless and poor or arrested for particulate passionate reasoning — -just ask Socrates.
PREFACE :
Methodological statements that Plutarch make about how he will prove his thesis — -organize his collection — — and select his material
PF: in his introduction of these points of honor in women Plutarch addresses how acts and arts can be objective and with that, so can the determinant for what makes someone, whether it be a man or a woman, a good leader. He urges his audience to dismiss the prevalent assumption of Thucydides and other historical thinkers and to challenge themselves with an image were such delegations and expectations could be immensely equal.

“For example, Achilles was brave in one way and Ajax in another; and the wisdom of Odysseus was not like that of Nestor, nor was Cato a just man in exactly the same way as Agesilaus, nor Eirene fond of her husband in the manner of Alcestis, nor Cornelia high-minded in the manner of Olympias.”

He further reasons with his reader by drawing from the skills and assets that already established heroes who all possessed some form of virtue, recognition, and honor but yet how they as characters ranged in temperament . Such accomplishments should be viewed with an equal approach to men and women on the writers part.

“I forthwith had then a long conversation with you, which was not without some share of consolation drawn from philosophy, and now, as you desired, I have also written out for you the remainder of what I would have said on the topic that man’s virtues”- Plutarch

Clea, the muse behind two of Plutarchs great stories seems to be addressed as an intellectual and philisophical equal whom seems to have insighting and rventet conversation when in the presence of her friend. His trust in sending her such material only extends to further proving such a bond because he draws to times in which they had met and first disussed such an issue . The fact that he was as dedicated to a subject broached with her further stands to prove the value he holds in her way of reasoning and view point .Clea, the muse behind two of Plutarchs great stories seems to be addressed as an intellectual and philisophical equal whom seems to have encouraged a conversation when in the presence of her friend. His trust in sending her such material only extends to further proving such a bond because he draws to times in which they had met and first disussed such an issue . The fact that he was as dedicated to a subject broached with her further stands to prove the value he holds in her way of reasoning and view point .

Step Two : Understanding the virtues of women and their modes of influence in groups

Listening for Leadership:

Consider these questions after every story :

  1. What are the various good, virtuous qualities women display?
  2. How do women make men do what they want?
  3. How do they use their bodies, and how do they use their intellect to effect what they want?
  4. What do women do (or what happens to them) after they have succeeded in achieving their aims?
  5. How do communities commemorate the brave actions of their women?
  6. What do those memorials tell us about how women’s actions were viewed?

I. TROJAN WOMEN : Acting together groups — those men who had escaped from Troy the hisband and wives of a village are on 2 seperate ends of the spectrum- men — combative , war hungry ,confused in their quest for food and a viable living enviorment . The women on the opther hand , lead by one called Roma were able to embrace the men with such humane embraces of greeting that it left the men stunnned and laxed. Upon this strategic coaxing balance was found and coexitance amongst the native Latins followed.

(1) in this collection women were able to strategically conduct themselves in a way that they would be sure to inflict no permanent harm and were they utilized a more sensitive and optimized approach . (2) They used their cultural and familial understanding of values and used it as a way to calm the waters and advice clear headed legislation amongst its people.

Tuesday April 11 , 2017

Tuesday, April 11, 2017 
Boston Marathon Anniversary, a reminder that next Monday is the 120th running of the Boston marathon. He is wearing it to commemorate the celebration of competition and health. Self-knowledge of your own body. Women’s vs Men’s races, the females tend to group for most of the race then take the win at the very last minute, to some this sounds considerably more exciting.
Virtue of women is the same of that of men in 27 historical and culturally relevant
i. women in groups 
other case studies of women in other leadership roles who possess the same amount of bravery in leadership.

Civility — National press club, awards to the ideological left and right. Historically insightful perspectives ranging from Pbs, Cnn, and other new casts. Award is given to Ruth Ginsberg and justice Scalia. Done in promoting the value of civility.
 This award entered around acknowledging two parties with opposing views. The level of passion is given tp this and how much thought is given when dealing with people’s viewpoints.
something is stake, nothing inrinsically will happen in terms of permenant changes.

What is it that bind the frienship?
I think that the uniqueness of another perspective really submerges himself in the ideological context that you dont beleive in.Basically the ability that you both share in purpose is ascertained by your faith and faith in another values, while they are still to be considered in our overall individuality .

If someone and I have opposing opinions their overall values may be something I feel stimulated by the opportunity to learn or be taught something different and new. The basis of hope that you can influence the person, the standoff occurs when noone is going to move or budge from their own opinion.

Is being open to new ideas (curious ) part of possessing a good charecter. When no ones looking are you the kind of person who asks new questions or a person who keeps it in and goes about mostly like a robot?

Does the notion of civility mandate this or does it celebrate the winner. Someone is what they believe faith in the power of dialoguethos whom are actually intrested in the rtuth. A place in which your can reach common ground . Power of dialogue and reasoning . Ver hard for some people to move on from these issues. Both have to be currious about the truth