I did say that Democrats didn’t imply that Palins words were not appropriate and here's my fuller statement about that:
Democrats didn’t imply that Palin comments caused Gifford’s shooter to go on a shooting spree — they merely criticized her Palin for showing cross-hairs above locations where gun regulation advocates were known to be active.
So I was talking about what caused a shooting spree, not that news stories in the NYT did not come down on Palin very hard for her cross-hairs add. And as I have already said, I think Democrats over reacted to that claim. Here now is my full response to the link I provided which was labeled as an “opinion” by the Times:
All insults aside, thanks for providing me with this story in the Times. The reason I had not yet tried googling the story is because I quite reasonably assumed that the Times own archives would have it recorded and easy to find. I was about to search google before getting your latest response.
“Not all the details are known yet about what happened in Virginia, but a sickeningly familiar pattern is emerging in the assault: The sniper, James Hodgkinson, who was killed by Capitol Police officers, was surely deranged, and his derangement had found its fuel in politics. Mr. Hodgkinson was a Bernie Sanders supporter and campaign volunteer virulently opposed to President Trump. He posted many anti-Trump messages on social media, including one in March that said “Time to Destroy Trump & Co.”
Correction: June 16, 2017”
“An editorial on Thursday about the shooting of Representative Steve Scalise incorrectly stated that a link existed between political rhetoric and the 2011 shooting of Representative Gabby Gifford’s. In fact, no such link was established. The editorial also incorrectly described a map distributed by a political action committee before that shooting. It depicted electoral districts, not individual Democratic lawmakers, beneath stylized cross hairs.”
“Conservatives and right-wing media were quick on Wednesday to demand forceful condemnation of hate speech and crimes by anti-Trump liberals. They’re right. Liberals should of course be held to the same standard of decency that they ask of the right.”
The first quote asserts that the Virginia gunman was deranged and that his derangement had found its fuel in politics. So, it’s pointing out that OUR political discourse, not just that Democrats or Republicans helps to fuel this kind of attack. The fact that the shooter favored Bernie Sanders simply points out the fact that, his mental illness, NOT his party affiliations caused him to focus on President Trump. Otherwise Bernine would be quoted as urging his followers to be violent. But the shooter was NOT coaxed or somehow programed by Democrats before doing what he did. Likewise, the Gabby Gifford’s shooter was also deranged and may have listened to anti-democratic rhetoric from Republicans, but as I said, the whole crosshairs controversy of that time seems to me, to represent an overreaction on the parts of Democrats and was thus much ado about nothing.
I’m glad that the NYT had the ethical integrity so correct their opinions about the Giffords shooting! I am just suggesting that overall, who mad men choose to listen to before killing others, is not a function of political ideology as much as it’s a function of their delusional or psychotic states. i.e. There was also a big controversy about the crazed and insane person who entered a Chick Fil A store and began shooting, simply because he read a false news story that accused Hillary Clinton of running a child porn organization which used that store for a front? We could of course conclude that Donald Trump's “crooked Hillary chants,” were what caused this insane gunman to go over the edge, but even if that wasn’t the reason, almost anything else could have set him off.
I am surprised that you have reacted so strongly to my mere suggestion that this problem belongs to both Democrats and Republicans, and that it has to do with mental illnesses — — medical conditions that know no racial, religious, or political preferences. Any madman may focus on someone to hate, be that a person of certain political beliefs, religious, or ethnic backgrounds, and it’s really unfair to blame their actions on either political party.
Here is how the Times Editorial ends:
“That is the society the gun lobby is working toward. Is it the one Americans want?”
“President Trump said just the right thing after the attack on Wednesday:”
“We may have our differences, but we do well in times like these to remember that everyone who serves in our nation’s capital is here because, above all, they love our country. We can all agree that we are blessed to be Americans, that our children deserve to grow up in a nation of safety and peace.”
Yet the article you linked to, said “He will not help create that nation if he continues to advocate easy access to lethal weapons.”
The last sentence says it all! Democrats like myself, believe that each American has the right to own guns, we just find it hard to see the necessity for buying 100 round magazines and body armor? And each state should not have different laws that make coordination of information difficult. Obama did not pursue gun regulations for almost all of his time in office, and he did not want to take anyone’s “GUNS AWAY.” He just agreed with many others that loopholes at gun shows should be closed, and that background checks should be more thorough. Your believe that he is trying to steal our guns? is the same kind of political mythology that places blame for someone else’s crazy actions on Democrats or Republicans. What is so unreasonable about just pointing to the partisan divide which is used to accuse others of inciting violence?