In a presentation Kay gave on rethinking computer science in 2015, he dealt with the Steve Jobs quote, saying that Jobs didn’t know what he was talking about. He said Jobs didn’t program. He was just pulling this notion out of thin air. He said first of all, programming does not teach you how to think! He said pick any programmer out of a thousand, and you’ll find they have no notion of what thinking really is. Kay said thinking is not being logical. That’s the mistake that the ancient Greeks made. It’s themistake that Europeans made in the Middle Ages, and it’s the mistake that postmodernists make today. Thinking is choosing the context you’re going to use before you start rationalizing.