I have to take exception to your first statement.
Roy Murray

None of that is true. None of it.

In France the legislatures are empowered to redraw districts with no checks on them at all. This is done on purpose because the purpose of the Republic is above all to preserve the Republic against Communatairism and small identities that could threaten it.

Germany certainly allows redistricting to a point. The SPD in Berlin used it in the early naughts to continually dominate over the PDS until the PDS gave up and formed die Linke. Gerrymandering is not forbidden in Germany, it’s not a huge issue here because of the proportional system of voting. There are not specific laws against it. On the contrary.

Additionally the EU is a very very corporate friendly place. The difference between the ECHR and other international human rights instruments (such as the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights) is that the Convention confers a broad protection to corporations in addition to individuals. Corporations in Europe have many if not all of the rights and protections as people.

Additionally, campaign donations aren’t “limited” here in Germany, the structure of politics is different. There are no limits on private or corporate contributions. or on who within the country can donate, be they private or corporation. In 2013 the two families that run BMW donated ca 700,000 Euro to the CDU. People thought it was a bit much and it made headlines. It was not illegal. The difference that really stands out is that donations of over 10,000 Euro must be openly disclosed. There are major limits on political speech though, such as advertising and campaigning via media.

Germany and France are both democratic countries they are not inherently more democratic than the US. In fact, France’ government is designed to protect the Republic from the people to a strong degree. Germany also has a Supreme Court with original jurisdiction to act and ensure that the Grundgesetz and the Republic remain inviolate, despite the Bundestag and the will of the people if necessary.

I am normally not so contrary here on Medium. It’s not a gotcha contest.

But this:

I have to take exception to your first statement.
France and Germany don’t allow gerrymandering, they limit campaign donations and oh yes, corporations aren’t people in Europe. Those three minor obstacles would need to be removed in the U.S. for anything approaching democracy to happen.

All of it, is demonstrably incorrect.

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