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Love your article. I also found the interview frustrating on many levels. There were several missed opportunities, i.e. no follow up on the phrase “perceived racism” — although there’s not enough air time to bring Tomi up to speed on basically all of U.S. history.

That being said, Noah’s question here (and his repeated return to the point) was perfect:

What is the right way? So here is a black man in America who says I don’t know how to get a message across. If I march in the streets, people say I’m a thug. If I go out and I protest, people say that it’s a riot. If I bend down on one knee, then it’s not [the right way].

What is the right way?” Noah continued. “That is something that I’ve always wanted to know. What is the right way for a black person to get attention in America?”

I think it’s important for people on opposite sides to be able to have a discussion, and to respectfully put pointed questions to the other, like Noah Trevor did here. It didn’t move the needle in terms of Tomi’s mindset, at least for now (she’s caught up in the pseudo reality that’s swept over our country, where facts and logic are completely disregarded — and she is of course, like our president-elect, primarily interested in protecting her own bottom line, which is inextricably linked, like the president-elect, to keeping the pseudo reality going). My (admittedly liberal-hearted) hope is that this question posed by Noah has planted a seed for her, and others sharing her reality, and that they might at least have been able to “hear” it because the question was posed respectfully.

Besides trying to get the next generation educated well enough to be able to think critically, know and understand history — and getting money out of politics — I don’t know what the path forward is in this new reality.

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