The Deeper Concept of Rnanubandha and understanding Karmic Relations between two people : How to understand Marriage/Relationships really are karmic or not ??
The Concept of Rnanubandha and Karmic Relations
First of all you need to understand what is karama all about and what are karmic relationships,as said below Karama is neither a punishment nor a treat it's just a way to know about yourself and unfulfilled desires those are keep revolving from past cosmic cycles.
“Karma has been a pop culture term for ages. But really, what the heck is it?
Karma is not an inviolate engine of cosmic punishment. Rather, it is a neutral sequence of acts, results, and consequences.
Receiving misfortune does not necessarily indicate that one has committed evil. But it is a sufficient indicator of something else.And that something else can be anything, as long as it is a logical consequence of what has come before.
Consider: if you fall into a well, you are not a bad person who deserves to suffer — you are merely someone who took a wrong step. Or someone who had one drink too many. Or got a head rush due to poor circulation. Or forgot to wear your glasses. Or —
The reasons are plentiful, and all plausible. But the chain of cause and effect goes way, way back into the deepest hoariest recesses of your personal past.
So never rule out retribution. But never expect it.”
by Vera Nazarian, The Perpetual Calendar of Inspiration
When you seek questions those are unfulfilled and having no clue from anywhere, that simply indicates those are nothing but are deep rooted lessons of past karmic actions.
“If you want to know the answer to ‘Who am I?’, then you will have to go to a Gnani purush [the enlightened one]. The Gnani Purush will give you Knowledge of your real Self [Who Am I] in the presence of the egoism. Thereafter your accounts (karmic) will be settled [& things will start falling in place].If the ‘effect’ is experienced, [karmic] bondage is created. If one experiences the ‘effects’ alone by himself, the [karmic] bondage will not be sticky. If he involves another person in it, the karmic bondage will be sticky.”
― Dada Bhagwan
It’s not easy to understand what are karmic relationships which bound us since many years or we are stick to them from our childhoods days with many of people we interact, share, love and responds them in a unique way. The best way to understand Karmic bondages is just keep silent and understand them and ask millions of questions to your soul itself.
In Layman language, A karmic relationship is a deep rooted karmic actions based romantic bond that is formed with someone whom you feel connected always and somehow you thinks you are made for and most probably it might be belong from your soul group categories in order to repent, heal past life lessons and pain a soul is going through from many years. Karmic relationships are the type of category that looks like a soulmate type bond that no one wants in a direct way, but ultimately everyone will get it in karmic cycle of this birth. These bonds are difficult to understand and are emotionally very taxing, sometime it takes shapes of abusive and verbal conflicts, and most important it has controlling and manipulative nature in sense.
There is no way to get out from such karmic bonds until and unless soul deeply learn his karmic lessons those are pending from this birth system meanwhile they keep moving in a cosmic cycle for years to understand each other. The only way to heal and understand a karmic relationship is when one or the other person try to understand its spiritual background of relations and take a decision to steps out of the karmic cycle and grows spiritually.
For ending a karmic relation, someone need to become stronger, broader and he has to be think deeper meaning of life and grow himself spiritually. When any one from the karmic relation decides to walks away from the bond completely — either via physically and energetically — the relationship will be over.
To fully understand and heal a karmic relationship, you need to think much time to self realize or evaluate within yourself, look within yourself to fully understand the process of whole bond i.e the lessons, the relationship has taught you before you decided to move over for the next relationship.
If you directly jump into a new relationship immediately without even realizing, repenting or self evaluating the whole situation of bond without understanding the pattern of relationship, things will keep repeating themselves again and again in any new relationship because the deep rooted issues have not been fully healed and realized yet. Decision to Jumping again into a new relationship too soon after ending the last karmic bond will again reopen the aspects of the pattern cycle of karmic sufferings. The whole essence in a karmic bond in any karmic suffering is to realise the mistake you are keep doing in past relationships. You must need to give the time and wounds created by all the relationship and the time they need to teach and heal you.
Once you have learned the karmic lessons and patterns of keep falling in multiple relationships and you had tried to broken down this pattern via growing spiritually, at the end you will be free from all of your patterns in a one way go and you will a free bird for forever where there will be no pending karma is in your basket . Even This cycle will be complete itself for the other person too, on it’s own, without involving in any participation from you.If you have tried himself to fully heal the lessons within yourself, in any life you will be free from all the pending past karmic relations.
The only way to meet true love soulmates will only be possible after the final ending realization and breaking the pattern of karmas, learning, suffering and after healing the a karmic bond reason being karmic relationship comes up in our life to show us the guilt, repent and the unhealed pain we are carrying from many births. When you heal the pain you carry with your karmic cycle, you will be open to experiencing the true love mate you truly deserve in this life cycle.
Astrologically, we can understand those karmic bonds but not in an easy lay man language via what we are studying from classical scriptures but yes there are many tools and system to understand “ runanubandhan” concept or Karmic relations between two people via Jamini and Nadi systems.I have tried to explain the concept of karmic relationships and Rnanubandha concept from many of jamini sutras and what i have observed from past many years in many different charts. but first of all we need to understand the basic concept, what actually is Rnanubandha or Karmic debit of two people or the people we interact with them.
What is “ Rnanubandha “ ?
We take birth in a family, we meet friends, we meet parents, we meet many partners, we indulge with them, we create further karmas and finally after doing many sins and karmic actions we fall in a good relationship or either we feel like marriage is a burden to us, we feels that parents are not listening to us and we leave our parents and close friends circle and live in an isolation to repent those sufferings; question is why it so ??. Logic is very clear we carry our certain karmas and we exhaust some of them and those we left we took away with for our next birth, don’t you think- there is a deep mystery in this karmic cycle.
“ According to the law of Rnanubandhan as explained by Sri Sri Ravishanakr ji , we will meet different people in our life in the forms of mother, father, brothers, sisters, spouse, children etc. We take birth a family only because of undischarged debts of past lives we carry with them. Mathematically explained, at the same time we are creating accounts, debiting and crediting all those karmas with them. We indulge with them for creating numerous Karmic debts with all those with whom we interact. Spiritually explained all the Karmic debts ( Rina ) lead to some sort of bondage or attachments ( bandhan ) with people we interact. If we look deeply according to Bhagwad Geeta principals, what it says about karmas is that all these Karmic attachments will try to pull us into the wheel of existence or you can say karmic or cosmic cycle again and again unless and until we will exhaust them.”
( Art of Living — Gyan Dhara — The Law of Karama: Runanubandha, Relationships, Astrology)
Rnanubandhan is actually the bond of past birth karmic actions that results from Karmic debts at the root of repeated lives we take in this cosmic cycle.
Numerous Karma which we are doing in day to day life is leading us in many “Rina” and this Rina further leads to Karma again. It is a two way cycle, If you have given or done something to somebody in some life, the memory of karmic actions will be stored in your Soul (Astral body) and all the memory will be attach with the soul. the person or the soul whom you had done something good or bad will be your debtor or creditor in this birth. If you had taken something in the past, it will be taken from you in any of birth you take, it could be this immediate birth or it could because of some of birth. If you had given good in the past it will be come back to you later somehow.
In Numerous birth we take, Astral body keep on storing the memories, sufferings and happiness of all of rnanubandhan relations in countless births. Unless and until all the karma stored in the soul body is burnt away or exhausted by the physical body, there is no point of liberation from birth cycle. Logically, we are memory of rnanubandhan of all the births, and the countless karmas we do in any relationship reflects some sort of rnanubandha. Those we are having strong bond or relations will be part of our strong rnanubandha and they usually become our parents, spouse, children and close friends in this life.
In Many of cases what i have found people keep on falling on many sexual and physical intimate relationships with so many people and even they never feel or realized them what they are doing and later when karma plays its role in the form of sufferings in their close relations i.e marriage and children they try to repent or having strong guilt in their subconscious mind. question is why it is so.
“According to the Rnanubandha theory explained in Karma and Memory, Sadguru ji has clearly said “ sexual relationships have maximum impact in our life in terms of the amount of memory or subconscious impression they leave in our mind as compared with any other kind of touch, or any substance you come in touch with it. In understanding Runanubandha in true sense, it is actually the physical memory attached with the soul we carry from. This memory can be acquired due to blood relationships or any sexual relationships. according to sadguru ji, When it comes to sexual relationships, a woman’s body has much more memory and tolerance power to experience those pain and level of sufferings connected with that and it can lead to guilt or feeling of difference. When it comes to genetic material, a man’s body has much more memory. Generally, over eighteen to twenty-one years of age, a woman’s body carries less physical memory than a man’s body. The main reason why nature has done this is because a woman has to bear a child from a man who is not genetically connected with her. For her to carry the child to term, it is very important that her genetic memory is less. “
( Karma and Memory by Sadaguru ji)
Astrologically understanding Rinanubandhan we need to first understand the karka of planets, Like Venus and Darakarka shows our partners/wife/husband and soul of the partner. Darakarka can be any planet i.e Sun, Moon, Mercury etc and the house Darakarka is attached with that, shows the learning and lessons connected with that, if DK is somehow afflicted by Nodes or other separative planets, it can shows the level of sufferings and lessons, it can be monetary, relationship and sexual lessons.
DK Being a Lagnesh and 7th lord always be a learning lesson for the native if he fail to understand the actual meaning of Dk is, Usually i have seen When DK is 7th lord, native usually have distorted ideas with respect to sexuality and spirituality. Native might feel difficulty to understand what actual is relationship, either he refrained from getting intimate with the partner or he feels that the bond of marriage is very pious and very spiritual and in reverse case native is too attached with the idea of sexuality and libido, this somehow indicates level of lessons and sufferings via partnerships and other partner.
If DK Being a lagnesh native might get spiritual lessons via his partners and helps him or her to understand the true meaning of Relationship bond. Purpose of Karka is only to filter the Soul of the native in right direction to get heal or release pain of karmic bonds.
In Many of cases, Either it is a case of Boy or girl, if AK is malefic and 7th lord too and it is retrograde, this will clearly indicates the level and pain of relationship suffering will be very much intense due to the overindulgence in sexual relationships or having higher libido in marriage , Usually these people have idea that the marriages and relationships are only meant for Sexual gratification of senses. If they didn’t get in one relationship, for satisfying their senses they keep on falling in other relationships till they are not satisfied and result is numerous Disturbance in karmic energies due to many sexual relationships before and after marriage.
As per my experience, If you found someone you met or interact with deeper emotional sharing that doesn’t means the guy or girl is your true soul mate, it is only a relation of Karmic bond and the reason being you are strongly connected with that person might be due to Sharing of Same Atma Karka, i.e Both the girl and guy having Same AK in their natal chart this clearly means connection of two souls from past lives, If Guy AK is lord of 5th house and and girl Ak is lord 7th house then the level of Bond will be very strong and if it is afflicted it can shows sufferings, if it is without affliction that can shows long lasting karmic bond unless the debits is not fulfilled.
True Spiritual Relationship between two people happens when the AK of any one of the person is connected with UP-pada lagana/Lord of the other one in natal chart.If Laganas of both the couple fall in each of their UL then it clearly shows both the couple are made for each other and they will understand each other in Soul level and will help in karmic uplifting of the karamas.
Multiple relationships before marriage are seen from the Strength of A7 ( Dara-pada) lord in D1 and D9 chart, If A7 is getting aspects from many planets that can shows native might fall in number of relationship but it is not sure all the relationships will be sexual or karmic.
If A7 lord is having relationship with the 7th house or 7th lord or if the 7th lord aspects the 7th house or UL then the motive of the marriage would be only physical or getting sexual gratification from marriage.
If A7/Lord is having mutual relation with the Arudha Lagana ( AL) — native will interact with number of people of Opposite sex but it is not sure interaction will be physically oriented unless and until both the lords are having link with the 7th house or lord.
If A7 and UL both are somehow interconnected in D1 it clearly shows love marriage between two people but the longevity of the bond only be dependent on the strength of 2nd lord from UL in D9 and D60 chart.
Presence of 7th lord or venus in 7th house also shows getting relationships only for satisfying higher libido or sexual gratification with the people those falling in close friend circle area.
Connection of 11th lord With A7/lord also shows Relationship with the close friend circle area those whom you get interacted via Social network, the planet which is connected with the A7 shows what sort of connection helps to get close, i.e Venus — Shows getting close with friends after parties and social communities or gathering etc.
Same-way, If we see the root cause of any relationship, In Deeper reality, any long lasting and Deep rooted relationships or Marriage relationships are a fruits/results of our good Sanchit (9th house/lord) and bad Prarabdh (6th house/lord) karmas we perform in earlier births those we take in cosmic cycle of birth system.
Based on those accumulated karmas either we enjoy (Punya karama -5th house ; kids, if 5th house is well placed or somehow connected with the 9th/9th lord) those relations or realises or suffer (In that case Level of Karmic suffering would be seen in D30 chart and lord of 6th/8th of d1 in D30 shows the deep rooted issue and level of sufferings) on account of those relations based on good/bad deeds we had done in past.
If you had done good Karamas in past birth Marriage will be most fruitful and same result can be check in D9 (Dharamsa — Fruits of Sanchit and Dharama related to marriage and relations) and d60 (Past Karmic actions) chart too.
In D9 or D60 chart Venus (In Male charts) and Jupiter, Mars and Darakarka planet (In Female charts) will be free from any affliction, if the relations are fruitful.
In Many of case if Ak Is badly afflicted with nodes and somehow connected with Venus or Darakarka relationship will be intense and suffering can be indicated.
If you had done anything bad wrt to any men or women in many of past birth, in current birth chart, 6th House and 6th lord in D1 will be most afflicted and somehow will be connected with DK/AK/UL or 2nd from UL and will always try to disturb the marriage in any way.
Whenever 6th lord make any relationship or influences the 7th house, 7th lord, UL/lord (Up-pada Lagana) or A7/lord (Darapada) in d1 chart and other marriage supporting houses natives either will face delays in the marriages,suffers or if somehow native falls in relation of love or close bonding, relationship will be like a path of cactus or level of suffering in that relationship will be intense or severe and can be soul revealing.In severe cases AK is closely influenced nodes and somehow connected with DK/Venus/UL/A7 lord.
In many of cases i have seen if AK is deeply afflicted or some way connected with Suffering (8th lord) houses/lords/nodes or has some relation with either Venus or UL or A7 arudha it can also shows problem after getting relationship. The only Purpose of all is to realise the soul, the lesson of pasts karmic actions or realising the pending karamas and moving ahead after the pain and guilt, just to self realise same-way one has given sufferings to the other, you also also have to go through with same pain. Karmas role is to always realise or teach the soul suffering for deeper spiritual growth in current birth.
Some souls fall on account of those suffering but some souls get transform them into new beginning of spiritual life.
This can be check in D9 chart with the strength of Ak, If Ak is deeply conjugated with Malefic planets/nodes or debilitated placed in trik Bhavas from Lagana of D9, it clearly indicates level of soul suffering will be intense and one has to suffer badly on account of past deeds and possibility is too that either native fall back in this birth unless and until he realizes the true essence of lessons , as Ak is weakly placed and debilitated too. Debellation shows the Tamao Guna nature of the soul , means bad karmic actions in this birth.
Choice is clearly in the hands of native what he want to achieve from that suffering, rise from that or fall in that. This clearly suggests one has to pay back its karma in any form, either in this birth or in next birth if somehow native able to carry forward it to next with the blessings of Seers and divine souls.
In Broader level Good Karamas are mainly categorised in Sanchit Karamas, even though bad are also categorised in it too but level of result is quiet different. Result of Sanchit karma can come out at any time in your life when good dashas and transit supports. May be it can come in pre-marriage life or may be after post marriage life.It is purely dependent on transits of slow moving planets with dashas of 6th/8th/12th or nodes on those houses having relation with past deeds.
With thanks and Regards,
Rakesh Singh Jamwal
Source and Reference:
Art of Living- Gyan Dhara. ( Sri Sri Ravi Shankar ji)
Karama and Memory : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO8QzMWZbN4
Jamini Sutras by Sanjay Rath