Universal healthcare as some on the left are selling it isn’t done anywhere.
Austin Glass

Out of pocket costs in most countries with so called universal healthcare is higher on average than the US.

LOL. I don’t know how you could be so wrong and confident about it. It is a fact that people pay less in other countries with universal systems, including lower or no co-payments.

Government healthcare programs deny claims just as private insurers do. In fact in some countries they will deny you treatment simply because you are obese or you smoke.

Yeah, not everything is treated everywhere. Same in the US. But in the US, claims are denied more often because that is how insurance companies maintain huge profit margins — literally by denying care.

As I mentioned before when private insurers deny claims you have a recourse through the government or our court system. When it is the government denying your claim you have no recourse. You are at their mercy. To dispute any of that is to simply deny reality.

In the US we are at the mercy of health insurance companies, which factually deny more care than countries with universal healthcare systems. Pay attention and you will find millions of people without insurance, and with simple healthcare requests denied, like for physical therapy or basic medicine.

Those pushing a single payer system here want to pretend that everyone will be treated for every possible circumstance and for little to no cost to them. It doesn’t take much to understand that that simply can’t be the case. Are you honestly claiming otherwise?

There are costs to a universal healthcare system. It won’t cover everything, all the time, for everyone. But it’s empirically a better system in every case it’s been implemented. Done with this conversation.