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Gavin Grayson

I have been through this a million times. Few people have open minds. Confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance reign. The next move is I post sources and then you discredit them as not being “trust worthy” i.e. out side your echo chamber. Its a pointless exercise. All I will say is that if you don’t think Chicago politicians are corrupt you are naive. Obama was no different. Obama got into politics through his role in real estate fraud.

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