other countries I have visited have better (and worse) bus service. Even when the buses are super slow, basically old school buses, they are cleaner than greyhound. And in Mexico and Argentina, the nice buses are so nice. And cheap if you earn your $ in USD. I think our transit options are terrible because so many people have cars that only people with lower incomes, people of color, and students, take the bus. The Amtrak clientele outside of the East Coast and California routes is similar. Thus, I can take a train that leaves at 5 am (always late) from Toledo to Chicago. Or one that leaves at 4 am.