But I’m not saying that trans-gendered people don’t face intense hardship or horrible injustice. In fact I’m a firm believer in both legal protections for the trans-gendered and the social recognition that trans-gendered women personally identify themselves as women-born-as-women.

I just don’t recognize that trans-gendered women are physiologically identical to women-born-as-women on a basic level nor do I beleive that trans-gendred women face the same type of social prejudice and persecution as women-born-as-women. I believe the the persecution faced by trans-gendered women is different and unique from the persecution faced by women-born-as-women. Horrible yes, but the same no.

And I don’t think that recognizing that the persecution and injustice faced by trans-gendered women in the US is different from the persecution faced by women-born-as-women in the US is the same thing as discounting or discrediting that trans-gendered women face horrible persecution and injustice,

In fact you yourself argue that the persecution faced by trans-gendered women in the US is different from the persecution faced by women-born-as-women by arguing that trans-gendered women face GREATER persecution and hardship than women-born-as-women.

I don’t deny your gender, and I don’t deny that you have suffered unjustly for it, but I just don’t believe that trans-gendered women are persecuted and prejudiced against in the same way as women-born-as-women and for the same reasons. In fact, I agree that trans-gendered women face greater and more horrible persecution that women-born-as-women. (e.g. business owners are probably more likely not to hire a trans-gendered woman because she is trans-gendered than a woman-born-a-woman because she is a woman-born-a-woman).

I understand that trans-gendered woman probably do not like to acknowledge that there is any difference between themselves and women-born-as-women, because many are or have been forced to deny their gender identity for a long time. But I still believe that trans-gender persecution is both unique from and orders of magnitude greater than the persecution faced by women-born-as-women.

I also believe that the trans-gendered activists that are gaining the most ground for trans-gendered rights are those embracing their identity as trans-gendered, unique from either women-born-women or men-born-as-men, but equally deserving of social and legal rights and protections.