Thank you for taking the time to read me, and for your reply.
1. I agree with many of your remarks and I don’t see myself representative for “the view” you’re talking about at all.
— Then it would be better if you don’t normalise that view (of talking dirty being normal, or any other matter you don’t agree with) inside your discourse(s) (just an idea, not pushing; just a simple idea). It can make (more than you want to) people think you agree with that, as it did for me. A simple “…I don’t agree, but…” would suffice (just an idea!).
2. Never did I say I’m ok with that, I’m simply stating that using vile or sexual language doesn’t make someone a misogynist.
— Now you were clearer. It doesn’t, but the chances are higher that the person might be.
3. The comparison with women who talk this kind of talk, is just to get the subject out of the “anti-Trump”-ness that can cast a shadow over ones judgement on the issue.
— The article specifically raised questions on Trump’s behaviour towards women. It was something like, reducing it to a poor single line, “the guy’s behaviour towards women is not good, let’s try not to praise him on that matter.”
4. For example, I personally don’t find women who would use that kind of talk to be men-haters.
— They might not be, but they may be. The set of behaviours plus language plus stance might make some people think they are. If someone doesn’t want people to think they are something they are not, perhaps it would be healthier if they behave differently and/or use another language.
5. You also suggest I am normalizing this, while my main intention is pointing out that the discussion will be much fairer if you can separate the issue from the person you oppose.
— See comment to 3; and
— “The discussion will be fairer if you separate the issue from the person you oppose” — now, that would be a perfect introduction to your original comment to the article (ideas, ideas, ideas).
Can you understand what I mean?
— Now, I do. I hope I could contribute to your considerations in some ways, the same way you collaborated so I could understand you better, instead of mutually using battering words. That’s refreshing, and a good feeling. Thank you.