Mystery of 8th House in Astrology Part 1 : Understanding Transformation, obstacles and longevity
What is 8th House about ?
Transformation is a process, and as life happens there are tons of ups and downs. It’s a journey of discovery — there are moments on mountaintops and moments in deep valleys of despair.
- Rick Warren
Without Understanding the essence of transformation, pain and suffering we cannot grow our-self into a deep state of higher realisation. Now question is what actually is transformation and how it is deeply linked with the 8th house matters.Logically 8th house is a mystic house of understanding higher Spiritual transformation and realisation that comes through after realising the pain of sufferings, being one of the house of moksha trikona sthan, it gives opportunity for purification of jeeva as well as Shareer mukti to rise above at higher level, at the level of Higher knowledge (Para vidya) and wisdom. It has connection of Secretiveness and hidden agendas that one has to live with them to understand life from micro angles, gives a fire or depth for understanding deep hidden knowledge that we need to dig deeper via keep exploring it till the end of life cycle(Cosmic cycle).
It is the main house that deals with all sort of occult sciences those are practical in nature where one has to put Fire, Tapa, energy in it to understand them, its a seed house where energy start flowing or proceeding from lower spine to the higher point, required for Tantra practises with going deep inside to know hidden essence of the world that is unknown from us- the world of spiritual reality, the world of Hidden vidyas. It give us picture of true reality of the hidden world, where spiritualism starts and leads to the end of spirit world. Those let us understand how to live in true reality and generates urges for living away from the gossips of mundane world.But that urge only comes after realising the deeper pain and reality of life via Death of ego, over Pride, shareer and after leaving mundane desires.
In Higher Sense, It gives Death of higher ego (what is bright , acceptable and appreciable in society is in mundane world seen and perceived has higher ego ruled by Aries and Scorpio, Being the house of transformations after life hurdles and obstacles act as house of darkness and transformations where sunlight always reaches late).
Being the house of Mundane transformations, ups and downs this house is closely linked with the past birth pending karmic debts that we must have to exhaust in any case, it is mainly deals with the unfinished karmic debts those are done in unconsciously adharmic or mistaken State “Avastha” when conscious is not in awake phase in earlier births.
Deeper Astrological Definition of 8th house
8th house is being a vast house of spirituality, Death and transformations is hard to decode in few words. It need lots of understanding in straight way language. It is something hidden that only we can experience and then we can able to know about it and what world is perceived is beyond of this knowledge, what they are seeing its only the mundane transformation but in actual reality it is a house of what is hidden in destiny that we need to explore from hidden or buried form under the ground.
Being the karka house of Scorpio It has deep mystery connected with all the characteristics those have resemblance with the nature of Scorpio i.e death, transformations, Accidents, Bankruptcy, Excretory organs, External Sexual organs, Inheritance, Litigation, occult, Plots, Poison, theft, Agonies, Anger, annihilation, Assassination, breaking of friendships, cancer, crossing large bodies of water, dangerous and fruitless journeys, deep psychotherapy, deep and wild forests defeat, Disputes, enemy fort, fall from height, fear, making loans, (Dishonourable profession), a hole, cavity, imprisonment, insults, long lasting diseases, Longevity, Long or disputed properties, Mental Distress, Monetary loss, partner’s money, punishment from authorities, receiving charities, Religious property, research, robbery, scandal money, trouble to spouse, unchastity, witchcraft, black-magic and all of them leads to higher learning and sufferings but its deep essence lies in understanding the deeper transformations appears in 9th house of wisdom after deeper pain, sufferings and higher realisation.
Difference between 8th house and rest of trik bhavas is that it indicates something very long pending, either it is about diseases or it is linked debt of the past. It gives understanding of chronic nature in every sense either it is about diseases or about realising the pain, but thing is 6th gives idea of an acute diseases, 8th gives understanding of deep chronic diseases.It can gives Legal difficulties that can destroy anyone life via long term financial crisis, humiliation, scandal or bankruptcy.
Being the house of witchcraft work and Black magic being ruled by the sign of Scorpio (characteristics comes form the Jyestha Nakashtra reside in sign of Scorpio, linked with disturbance in Pran Vayu that flows in the human body), it has same level of influence on native mind too where moon get debilitated (in the sign of Scorpio, 8th house). Same is connected with its stingy nature that comes from the animal ruled by it, “The Scorpion” bite usually gives neurological shock that is unbearable for any being and the same way Witchcraft work in 8th first effects mind of the native in a much deeper level that is hard for anyone i.e Vashikaran that primarily purpose is to control the mind of person, loosing the strength of the mind or imbalance of the Vayu in the body.
But another side story is why we are getting suffering via Black magic and Witchcraft work in 8th house, reason is only one — the level of suffering we have given to other, same way we have to face in same intensity — somewhat a debt or curse like situation, long pending from many early births.
8th being fallen in 12th from the 9th house (Past birth — shows what is left behind that you have to face in any case or finish or exhaust it). That Pain or suffering we incur by past debts or left behind karama helps us moving into achieving greater liberation or moksha after a death like situation.
We can never experience wisdom and higher philosophy unless and until we may never go through from it. Every Death and Suffering has some higher learning, purpose and teaching of almighty that is kept hidden for society benefits (10th).
Unless and until we never realised that deeper sufferings and transformations connected with the 8th house we can never become a filtered soul who can understand the higher wisdom and philosophy of life that is seen from the 9th house. That’s the reason it is falling in 12th from 9th house, first we need to filter out our left over debts then we can become pious and pure soul who can connect with the true brahma tatva.
In Layman language, 8th house covers primarily transformations of mundane worlds, i.e obstacles seen with respect to 7th (Marriages and partnerships — being falling in 2nd house from 7th house responsible for feeding the marriage, the need or requirement for marriage — The sustain-er house, if 8th is having influence of beneficial planet, it will sustain the partnerships and joint finances required for growing in mundane world but if malefic’s planets are present in 8th it will block or end the partnership with much suffering, realisation and pain).
It gives Direct challenges in personal and joint financial life, 8th being in 7th from 2nd house (the food of Business).
Malefic’s Being fallen in 8th (Sufferings to the body and intelligence ) from Lagana it affects the longevity of the native and legacy, being a house of 8th and 2nd from 7th, 5th from 4th — inheritance is seen from the 8th house.
Most important it is seen for long lasting chronic health issues pending due to unknown causes but in actual reality true real sense and acute health issues seen from the the 6th house.
Being fallen in 11th from 10th house it gives breaks in career and at the same time shows new beginning or new journey of the career of native as seen from the 8th house. being a house of secret unknown hidden truth it could give unknown destiny to the native and can totally changes the path of career of native.
One must be aware in the dasha of the 8th house Planet/lord Antardasha period for any sudden change in the career path.
Spiritual and Astrological Significance of 8th House
In General, The Eighth House is known for the house of “ Deeper Life Transformations, unknown and hidden Obstacles & Longevity related issues those can falls in after Marriage and in personal life”.
8th being a house of the moksha trikona house indicates a house of higher awakening, spiritual learning and self realisation for purification of the inner self and soul. If 8th house is well disposed and beneficially placed and is strong it usually indicates healthy mind, body and soul and one can easily overcome life challenges that comes in life, and related to longevity.
If 8th house is malefically disposed or afflicted by strong malefic planets than it can shows karmic backlogs of past births with intent of having deep grudges and revengeful behavior. One must not stick to these deep hidden revengeful thoughts if the soul is wanted to transform in true reality of higher conscious. Being Karka of something hidden, deep and secretive in nature as what we learns form scorpio signs , it shows hidden activity related to 8th house , as it falls in 2nd from 7th (Marriage partnerships) it shows hidden sexual activities, depending on the nature of sign, planets and state (Beneficial and malefic) it shows the sexual orientation in marriage or in relationships. If it is beneficial native might has soft orientation wrt to Sexuality but same time it is having malefic planets native might have rough and wild sexual orientation wrt to Sexual acts.
Meanwhile these sexual deviancy also helps in rising of one’s kundalini shakti after realising the true essence of Yogi.In Sexual tantras this house has major role for understanding or transforming into yog Marg.
At the same time if 7th house shows what you are seeking in close relationships between partnerships — love (Moon in 7th), Romance or libido (Venus in 7th) , 8th house shows how you manage your sexuality and how sexually you are and what sort of sexual act you follows in bonding.
Malefic can shows imbalance in sexual orientation and beneficial shows native of highest order of spiritual moral and follow the same path. People of highest order of spiritual path usually follows strong penance or Tapa Yoga by controlling their sexual energy into highest order of spirituality, that’s why it leads to Moksha and falls under Moksha trikona sthan — being falling in 5th from 4th (Skills required in Moksha or bhakti marg).
For siddha purushas this is the house of Kundali Awakening to reach into highest order of Subconscious mind and its stability and how you went through it — balance it or suffering via it which can results to psychological issues , everything depends on the strength of the 8th house and its lord in d1 and d60 chart. that’s the reason those having strong 8th house have deep hidden talents wrt to occult sciences and blessed with highest order of deep intuitions and psychic abilities.
People falls in these types of categories are well versed in seeing futures those related with deaths and mysteries, can see futuristic dreams those related with Something bad future events or related to destructive points wrt to personal relations or might be related to mundane worlds too.
In many of cases people develops deep interest in decoding deep and hidden meanings of interpreting weird and hidden dreams signals. it has been seen many people have abilities to speaks with dead souls too.
Being a house of legacy, it is also shows of corruptions, scandals and negative traits regarding unethical monetary gains via lottery and scandalous money. Being the house of deep secrets and root of Kundalini, it shows hidden mysteries and energy level of Mool dhara chakra we have in our body and any imbalance in 8th house energy can leads to imbalanced root chakra and disturbed Mental and financial life.
Longevity and 8th house ( verses from rest of the Classics and Bphs) :
Sage Parashara in BPHS has clearly said that the Balarishta and rest of longevity matters should be seen from 8th house, as this house is primarily seen for the longevity matters. Whereas 8th lord shows the over longevity of the native. Placement of 8th lord in Kendras or Trikonas bhavas shows Long life and in trik bhavas or with affliction from nodes shows issues of health and long life.
Same way there has been A quote in “Sarvartha Chintamani” by “Vyankatesha Sharma Translated by J.N Bhasin” which states that :
“If the 10th lord is placed in friendly sign, own sign, exaltation signs, it confers long life.Similarly the location of the lords of the 10th, 1st and 8th house lords in Kendra Bhavas ensures long life.”
Reason is why 1st, 8th and 10th are so much important in understanding longevity Because 3rd from these houses shows what is necessary to perform the duties required by that house. 3rd from Lagna shows Skills required to survive, 3rd from 8th shows Karama ( good and bad karma in society — 10th house) required to ensure longevity and 3rd from 10th shows Moksha, peaceful sleep (12th)
(By Visti Larsen Jyotisha fundamentals)
Regarding placement of 8th lord
8th and 1st lord
Regarding Natural Malefic in 6th, 7th and 8th House
Regarding 8th lord in 1st House
Quote from Jataka Parijata on 8th lord
Same way Shastras has revealed about 7 types of Longevity for any loka :
Below are the translations of 8th house as explained by Sage:
Quotes from BPHS Regarding Longevity :
“ O excellent of the Brahmins, listen to me speak on the effects of 8th House. If 8ths Lord is in an angle, long life is indicated.”
“Meaning : It 8th lord is well placed in Kendras ( 1, 4, 7th and 10th house it indicates long life) (Corrected)
Regarding Short Life :
“ Should 8ths Lord join Lagnas Lord, or a malefic and be in 8th itself, the native will be short lived.”
Meaning : If 8th lord is connected with Lagnesh or any malefic and all are placed in 8th house then it is a yoga for short life. for e.g Leo Lagana — lagnesh sun (1st) is with Jupiter (8th) and Rahu (7th lord-Markesh) in 8th house that shows short life of the native.
Saturn and 10ths Lord about Longevity :
“ Similarly consider Saturn and 10ths Lord in the matter of longevity. 10ths Lord is in 8th along with a malefic Planet and/or Lagnas Lord.
Regarding Long Life :
“ There will be long life, if 6ths Lord is in 12th, or, if 6ths Lord is in 6th, as 12ths Lord is in 12th, or, if 6ths Lord and 12ths Lord are in Lagna and 8th. If the Lords of 5th, 8th and 1st House are in own Navāmśaas, own Rāśis, or in friendly Rāśis, the native will enjoy a long span of life. Should the Lords of Lagna, 8th and 10th House and Saturn are all disposed severally in an angle, in a trine, or in 11th House, the subject will live long. Like these, there are many other Yogas, dealing with the issue of longevity. The strength and weakness of the Planets concerned be estimated in deciding longevity.”
Regarding Short Life :
“ Ones span of life will be between 20 and 32 years, if Lagnas Lord is weak, while 8ths Lord is an angle. The native will only be short-lived, if 8ths Lord is in fall, while 8th House has a malefic in it and 1st House is bereft of strength. Death will be instant at birth, if 8th House, 8ths Lord and 12th House are all conjunct malefics. Malefics in angles and/or trines and benefics in 6th and/or 8th House, while 1st House has in it 8ths Lord in fall: this Yoga will cause immediate end. If 5th and 8th House and 8ths Lord are all conjunct malefics, the life span will be very brief. Within a month of birth, death will befall the child, if 8ths Lord is in 8th itself, while Moon is with malefics and be bereft of beneficial Aspect.”
Regarding Long Life :
“ One will be long-lived, if Lagnas Lord is in exaltation, while Moon and Jupiter are, respectively, in 11th and 8th House. If Lagnas Lord is exceedingly strong and receives a Aspect from a benefic, which is placed in an angle, the person concerned will be wealthy, virtuous and long-lived.”
Quotes from Phala-Deepika Regarding Planets in 8th House
Regarding 6th and 8th house
Regarding Sun in 8th house and Death
Regarding Rahu in 8th house and Death
Rakesh Singh Jamwal
Source and Reference:Brihat Parashara hora shashtra