Tryptamines, Eastern Philosophy, And Chaos: A Conversation With Legion
Minimally edited transcript of a conversation with the mysterious hacker who has recently attacked Indian businessmen, politicians, and journalists — “for the lulz”
19:23:21 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Hello
19:23:26 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: greetings
19:23:45 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Do I catch you sober by any chance?
19:23:53 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Nope. always on drugz
19:24:14 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Haha. What’s the poison today?
19:28:20 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Still there?
19:28:25 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: ofcourse
19:28:30 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: the poison today is 5-HO-MIPT
19:30:36 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: I’m a bit of an amateur psychonaut myself but you guys are clearly playing in a different league.
19:30:59 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Yes
19:31:05 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Personally — i’m a fan of RC’s
19:31:08 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: I l0v3 phenethylamines
19:31:26 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Dislike some tryptamines, but most are okay
19:31:53 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Looks like someone is giving voice interviews on behalf of us
19:32:08 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: We love spreading disinfo, but we love it even more when the public helps us spread disinfo
19:32:09 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Haha. I was going to ask you about that
19:32:19 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: “world exclusive”
19:32:23 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Whoever gave that voice interview, we sh4ll personally ak3pt him as a m3mber of legion fr0m today.
19:32:34 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: We don’t even have a twitter account m89
19:34:30 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: The government seems to be panicking too.
19:34:50 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Well, that sucks
19:34:53 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Although we love panic
19:34:58 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: LONG LIVE MODI AND HIS GOVERNMENT
19:35:13 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: They’ve ordered some kind of wholesale IT review/
19:35:21 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: What do you think that will achieve?
19:35:39 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Maybe they should start with m0l3z inside the government dropping dbs at our emails
19:35:39 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: perhaps
19:36:20 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Interesting. Whistleblowers?
19:36:40 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: We have h1t da j4ckpot though
19:36:56 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: We ran 0ur dropb0x dumper against a list of financial nichez
19:37:01 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: and hit da jackpot of incriminating d8a
19:38:25 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Can you give me one or two pieces of information from that? Loads of doubters at the moment. Especially the barkha/mallya dump didn’t exactly set the world alight.
19:38:32 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: since*
19:38:38 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Oh
19:38:41 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: You people want data
19:38:45 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: In the unprocessed format so much
19:38:56 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Did we not tell you already it will create chaos
19:39:03 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Here you go, heres some chaos for you guys
19:43:07 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: https://paste.ee/p/6EB3I
19:43:27 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Username:Password of over 60k accountants in India
19:43:39 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: And those that reuse the password on dropbox have b33n 0wn3d, and da financialz dumped.
19:44:23 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Wow.
19:44:33 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: That’s a lot of accounts.
19:44:35 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Yes, auditors hiding the rich and the wealthy.
19:44:37 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: We are watching you.
19:44:47 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: And if we drop the data, the chaos shall ensue
19:45:36 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: So if you don’t want chaos, then there must be something specific you’re after?
19:45:43 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: We are after
19:45:45 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Something called
19:45:46 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Lulz
19:45:49 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: And tryptamines
19:45:56 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Haha.
19:46:22 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Let me put it this way, are you the good guys or the bad guys?
19:46:45 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Good and bad exist in mind only. — Samantabhadra, The Primordial Buddha.
19:47:40 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Touche.
19:48:00 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: I doff my hat to thee.
19:48:15 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Yes
19:48:28 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: We aren’t religious, but we love the esoteric tradition of dzogchen.
19:48:41 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Personally I am fascinated by the tibetan text — the kunjed gyalpo
19:48:54 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: (also known as the tantra of the all creating king)
19:49:13 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Everything is perfect, as it is.
19:50:11 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Why mess with it then?
19:53:06 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: I mean, if everything is perfect as it is, why do anything?
19:53:22 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: You have the wrong idea
19:53:33 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: If you consider yourself the doer
19:53:55 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: He who thinks that it slays and he who thinks that it is slain — both fail to perceive the truth, because the soul neither slays nor is slain. — Bhagavad gita
19:54:04 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: You do nothing
19:54:16 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: You are the awareness, or the screen onto which the doing is projected
19:55:56 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Hmm… I understand now.
19:57:33 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOaV2Y4a1nI
20:00:17 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: I’m a rock and roll guy usually, but this is pretty good.
20:00:27 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: You said you like psytrance
20:00:34 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: !
20:00:37 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: No.
20:00:41 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: So fast music is your thing
20:00:58 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: I said I like psychedelics.
20:01:41 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Yep.
20:02:46 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: What do you think of all the attention you’re getting right now?
20:02:53 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Who cares?
20:03:02 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Legion won’t exist after the ‘raw data dump’ thats coming
20:03:13 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Must be loads of other journos like me badgering you. Doesn’t it get annoying?
20:03:15 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: We really can’t be arsed going through the data for a public that doesn’t give a fuck about us.
20:04:07 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Do you have a d-date in mind?
20:04:15 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Maybe by new yearz
20:04:20 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: It will be full of raw data sp00lz
20:04:22 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: But until then
20:04:26 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Legion shall remain ‘inactive’
20:04:39 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: The people don’t give a fuck about us, so it’s time to go back to the trolling.
20:04:47 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: And, to #DelhiPolice, good luck catching us?
20:04:58 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Maybe they should first look into the extradition treaties of the islands or something
20:05:05 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Retarded A$$h0l3z
20:06:17 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: The islands? Didn’t you say Eastern Europe?
20:06:30 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Doesn’t it make sense to spread disinfo?
20:06:35 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: We could be in India for all you know
20:06:38 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Of course.
20:06:55 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Either way, doubt they have a shot.
20:07:43 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Man, they should think of themselves and guard their servers probably
20:07:47 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Thats a wiser decision, eh?
20:09:38 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: They are ‘confident’ that we’ll be caught.
20:09:43 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: We have to tell them — one thing
20:09:45 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: GOOD LUCK KIDZ
20:10:30 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: I doubt they’re confident. But they have to say that publicly.
20:10:46 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: “the group is itself taking responsibility for hacking these microblogging sites but we don’t as yet have any information about the real hackers. The case is under investigation”.
20:10:47 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Hey
20:10:51 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: The real hackers
20:10:54 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Are sitting in your office
20:11:04 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Writing c0d3 to rm -rf /* all your servers
20:11:12 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Did they ever consider that angle?
20:14:14 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: That’s probably a joke, but there’s a small and sad possibility its also true.
20:19:29 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: I’ve been trying some of the logins. All invalid so far.
20:19:45 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Are you a h4ck3r or a journalist?!!
20:19:53 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Well, only about 15% of them work
20:19:57 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: I need to verify.
20:21:03 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: You have your ethics, I have mine.
20:21:56 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Not that I could ever publish anything I saw if I did get in.
20:22:10 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: I’ll wait for your dump for that.
20:22:18 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Most of them do work, btw
20:23:05 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: just tried a random one
20:23:08 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: the first one worked x)
20:23:11 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: ***.****@*******.com
20:23:13 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: dropbox.com
20:23:15 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: works just fine
20:24:42 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: We had about a 7% hit rate on dropbox when the data was obtained
20:25:01 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: And acquired about 7000+ files related to financial audits of various people/companies
20:26:11 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: So chaos is more or less guaranteed then?
20:26:38 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: We have a bit too much d8
20:26:39 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: a
20:26:58 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: The sansad stuff? What’s up with that?
20:32:09 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: hm
20:32:18 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: perhaps we should just drop that aswell
20:38:49 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: You guys will become the patron saints of journalists everywhere if you do.
20:39:10 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Should the average joe be worried though?
20:39:22 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: the average joe? never
20:39:29 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: we are like the average joe
20:39:31 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: or we were
20:39:39 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: except that we have a lot of money
20:39:44 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: other than that
20:39:50 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: we’re pretty much the average joe too ;>
20:42:42 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: A hacker who quotes Buddhist philosophy while tripping on tryptamines thinks he’s average.
20:43:43 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Sounds unlikely.
20:44:38 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Well
20:44:44 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: It is true!
20:45:05 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Do you think
20:45:09 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: a UIDAI data drop
20:45:12 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: would harm the public
20:45:19 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: That might just be our last target
20:45:47 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Of course it would.
20:46:07 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Or in the long run it would help them
20:46:09 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: It would also kill aadhar. But I don’t know if its worth the price.
20:46:12 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Nothing is safe on the internet
20:46:18 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Agreed.
20:47:49 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: How good/bad is the UIDAI security?
20:48:11 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Well
20:48:18 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: I’ve looked at it for 5 minutes now
20:48:34 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Look at it this way for instance
20:48:39 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: The number of entry points is quite high
20:48:40 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: https://censys.io/ipv4?q=autonomous_system.name%3AUIDAI-AS-IN&page=2
20:48:51 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Too many servers facing the internet is never a good thing
20:51:05 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Makes sense.
20:51:16 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: It could probbably be done
20:51:43 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: In 72 hours
20:51:45 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Or less
20:51:47 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: An estimate
20:51:55 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: The fact that they user zimbra is never a good thing
20:52:10 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Do people still trust zimbra after all the security issues that have popped up over the yearz
20:55:56 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Govts put their money in all kinds of silly things.
20:56:01 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Look at this http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/info-tech/national-botnet-cleaning-centre-in-a-month/article9374599.ece
20:56:09 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: national botnet cleaning centre
20:56:10 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: wtf
20:56:10 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: LOL
20:56:15 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: hey guys
20:56:16 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: we clean botnets
20:56:44 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: with biokleen dishwasher gel
20:56:58 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: they come out neat and shiny after that
20:58:22 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: hahaha
20:58:36 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Omg #DigitalIndia is gr8
20:58:41 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: we clean botnets with dishwasher gels
20:58:46 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: and have a computer emergency response team
20:58:54 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: which buys 0days from people like hacking team
20:59:00 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: who get r00t3d
20:59:04 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: and we still buy 0days from them anyway
20:59:09 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: because it’s in our interest ofcourse
21:01:04 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Its scary.
21:01:35 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: How individuals now have the power to toy with governments.
21:02:20 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: Yep
21:02:25 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: And those ‘whitehats’ never give up
21:02:27 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: In the meantime, despite the best guess of some security experts who wrote that Hacking Team could never recover from the attack and despite the hopes of others, in fact, Hacking Team has restored our lawful surveillance product and developed new cutting-edge tools. At the same time, the company has overhauled and secured internal computer networks.
Hacking Team will continue to produce and provide world-leading software to help law enforcement authorities keep us all safe.
David Vincenzetti CEO, Hacking Team
21:02:31 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: That was giggleworthy shit
21:02:33 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: From hacking team
21:03:21 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: there are smart whitehats
21:03:29 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: like, assume — the guys who work for google project zero
21:03:31 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: they’re p cool
21:03:48 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: but they choose the safe way out
21:03:51 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: instead of making an impact
21:03:53 — l3g10n_crew@jabber.otr.im: i always hate that
21:05:45 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: The safe way out as in?
21:05:55 — zordon@jabb3r.org/Instantbird: Just being white hat?
[End of conversation]
