Erica Lasan: “5 Things Anyone Can Do To Optimize Their Mental Wellness”
…I found out I was pregnant and this quote took on a whole new meaning. It was a note-to-self of how I wanted to show up in the world, and a reflection of the example I wanted to be for my young daughter. I want her to be brave and feel worthy enough to know that she should ask for everything her heart desires. Even in a world that doesn’t always value the lives of young black girls as much as it should, I want her to know that her star is meant to shine. Her thoughts are worth sharing, her desires are worth pursuing, and there is room for her to craft the life she chooses for herself.
As a part of my series about the “5 Things Anyone Can Do To Optimize Their Mental Wellness” I had the pleasure of interviewing Erica Lasan.
Faith-Fueled and Purpose-Propelled, Erica Lasan is an Alignment & Empowerment Strategist… but you can call her a Vision-Pusher!
Erica’s work helps individuals and entrepreneurs in transitional phases discover “what’s next” in finding joy through purpose, and strategically mapping out steps to get there! As a multi-passionate creative, and stay-at-home mom, Erica’s “Live Rich” motto is a cry for everyone to use their gifts and live within their JOY — doing less of what they “have to do,” and more of what they WANT to do. How? By engaging in open conversation, healing experiences, and programs to encounter a life that is happy, healthy, and purposed. #LiveRich, and Happy Dream Chasing!
Thank you so much for doing this with us! Our readers would love to “get to know you” a bit better. Can you share with us the backstory about what brought you to your specific career path?
I’ve always been inspired by the creative process, and people being bold enough to pursue their dreams. But after graduating from college during the 2009 recession (with no job prospects), I found myself settling into a life that I didn’t want. I had just turned 20 years old and was already willing to sell-out my aspirations for a job at my college internship — just because they were offering me monetary compensation. Yes, it was a job, but I wasn’t excited about it at all. I felt like my creativity, ideas, and gifts were not being used; not only this, I couldn’t see how they would grow within the company.
I took extended bathroom breaks just so I could escape my desk. I would sit on the toilet and cry for ten minutes, then I would wash my face, put on lip gloss, and then head back to my workstation. But it didn’t end there. The misery continued! On my lunch break, I would take a walk around the office building and call my boyfriend crying and complaining about how undervalued and unhappy I felt. I felt stuck. I wanted to do something different, but I wasn’t sure how.
After a full summer of this routine, my boyfriend made a simple statement that changed everything, “well Erica, just do something.”
… and so I did! I went back to the drawing board and considered all the things I enjoyed doing before going to college: Photography, jewelry design, singing/songwriting, and engaging in conversation (to name a few). At one point, this led me to create a YouTube channel and develop a few digital series where I was doing street interviews all over New York City!
In the years since then I’ve worked in a myriad of industries, but my interests and intrigue have always landed back with people. I would converse with strangers for hours about their life aspirations, dreams, goals, and giving ideas on how they could arrive there. At some point I realized I’d been working for free! I’d been so busy looking for a job, when all along I’d unintentionally built one for myself… as a consultant! So I made it official and started my company the Live Rich Movement (LRM) in addition to other freelance projects I’d been doing through my site EricaLasan.com. The Live Rich Movement has been a culmination of everything I am passionate about: people, faith, purpose, creative execution, and living each day intentionally, passionately, and in joy!
… Oh, and that wise (and supportive) boyfriend? I married him! :)
Can you share the most interesting story that happened to you since you started your career?
The most interesting that has happened to me since starting my career is the fact that I’m doing this at all! So much of the journey to make it to this point in my career has been accidental, a matter of me speaking it into existence, or trying something new that I’ve always wanted to do. I didn’t like the job I had out of college, so I quit it to do more colorful things that made me smile instead!
Did I get bored working in the fashion industry? I got a freelance gig at a national magazine covering New York Fashion Week and celebrity lifestyle. Once that got old, I became a blogger. After doing that I realized I didn’t want to bother with writing and that I wanted to be an on-air talent instead. Funny enough, being on camera was something I’d been wanting all along, but I was too scared to say it out loud. Once I finally got over the fear of thinking “who do I think I am?” Blessings poured in! Since then I’ve gotten opportunities to collaborate with bigger brands, digital networks, and even create online shows. As a creative, this journey has allowed me to feel powerful, purposed, and fulfilled in a lot of ways!
So really, it has ALL been interesting… but one highlight was my very first freelance gigs working as an Editorial Assistant with Ebony Magazine for NYFW F/W 2010 shows. I was working under Harriette Cole and Elaine Welteroth (who was the magazine’s Beauty/Fashion Editor at the time), and it catapulted me into the creative New York scene, exercising the power to define who I am, who I want to be, and knowing that anything is possible.
Can you share a story with us about the most humorous mistake you made when you were first starting? What lesson or take-away did you learn from that?
One of the most humorous things I did when I first started, was doing things for free — at the expense of my wellness, time, peace of mind. I was starting a business around helping other people, but I found it so hard to help myself! Sometimes I would take on more than expected, for little to no compensation- delivering top-notch service, but barely able to pay for gas! It’s not funny, but it is humorous to consider, seeing that I was building a business!
Businesses need payments to keep the lights on and the service flowing. Valuing your time, talent, and access to your presence should all require compensation. I’m not saying that I’m a “big deal” (there is still so much growth for me to experience), but all the work I was doing for free was time I could have been spending with my family or friends. Keep in mind, I’d already done a few internships to get my foot in the door, so at this point I wasn’t in it solely for the “experience,” though it never hurts to practice your craft!
Speaking of experience, another mistake I made was thinking I could do things on my own. It’s funny because a mindset like that will only lead to stress, wasted money, wasted time, and isolation. As soon as you’re able to afford it, I would highly suggest getting a mentor or a business coach. This will change the game of how you approach your business and your brand!
None of us are able to achieve success without some help along the way. Is there a particular person who you are grateful towards who helped get you to where you are? Can you share a story about that?
There are several people I am grateful to for helping me in my journey! My husband, Nick, has been a major supporter since day one (as I shared above). Aside from listening to me vent every day for an hour; his call for me to “just do something,” was one of the first signs of his dedication to my dreams. Not only did he believe in me when I found it hard to believe in myself, but in all the years of building my business he has never once complained. This is important because we got together young. As I’ve built my brand and navigated the highs and lows of entrepreneurship, Nick has been a steady anchor and an exceptional partner. There have been bouts of time where: I wasn’t working full time, I was freelancing odd jobs, and for the past three years I’ve been building my business while also being a stay-at-home mom to our two kids! We aren’t millionaires (yet!), but over the past decade he’s proved his faith in my vision by contributing to my dreams with his patience, his skills (occasionally as a photographer and videographer), and yes — even investing money if/when the occasion called for it.
Next up is my family. My family is so supportive of my goals. My parents are from Nigeria, so I’m a first-generation American. So much of the lifestyle I wanted for myself was foreign territory for my parents. After graduating from college, this proved to be a little difficult. My parents wanted me to go back to grad school, then I quit my Marketing job and went to work in fashion (retail) in New York City. They wanted me to lock down a great corporate job, but I chose the path of networking and entrepreneurship instead. They wanted me to be with a Nigerian, and ultimately I married my college sweetheart — a Jamaican. I’m sure that for a while, they probably thought I just enjoyed being “rebellious.” I promise I was a respectful child, but I also knew that I had to do what was best for me.
I couldn’t live for them or anyone else. When it came down to it, I didn’t want to look back on memories of a life that I never wanted to begin with. I wouldn’t have anyone to blame but myself. I wanted the challenge of building a life of creativity, self-expression, color, style, and genuine connections. I also knew that if I stuck to my guns and pursued my passions, they would eventually come around, and that’s exactly what happened. After two years of hustling and networking, I was finally starting to see tangible results. My jewelry line was being sold in boutiques across New York City, and once I landed a freelance gig with EBONY Magazine, my mom let up and bought into the vision.
Now my mom is one of my biggest supporters. She’s always sharing my work with friends and family. I’m sure there’s a lot she still doesn’t fully understand about what I do, but she understands that I am happy and living in my purpose. I was the family guinea pig… now my [super talented] siblings are free to pursue creative freedoms and relationships as they please!
Last but not least, I’m super grateful for my first employer, Ms. Bonnie. She hired me when I was 13 years old; and she was the first person to help me recognize that my creativity (and love for arts and crafts) was something that I could monetize. Ms. Bonnie and I came from such different worlds, but God saw fit to bring us together in the weirdest way — at a holiday craft fair! She was crying, overwhelmed, and having a minor anxiety attack.
I asked her what was wrong and if there was anything I could do to help. So I took some time to help her set up her booth and then went about enjoying my time at the fair. At the end of the event Ms. Bonnie offered me a summer job helping her with her jewelry business, Beads by Bonnie. This eventually led me to design and start making jewelry (later that summer) out of boredom, using leftover beads that Mrs. Bonnie had given me. Less than a month later, I sold my first piece of jewelry to a woman as I was buying some ice cream!
I’ve been finding novel ways to make a creative living (while helping people) ever since!
What advice would you suggest to your colleagues in your industry to thrive and avoid burnout?
The first piece of advice that I have for colleagues to thrive and avoid burnout is to honor your mind and your body — recognize when you’re doing the best that you can and then surrender the rest. That means setting boundaries… sometimes even with ourselves! As a society, we need to realize that technology has made us too easily accessible to everyone ALL. THE. TIME. At some point we need to draw a line somewhere.
Rather than paying attention to the signs and limits that our bodies instinctively give when we need to rest — we push ourselves. Sometimes this push happens because of feeling pressure to please others, making ourselves available, or just being “nice.” Instead, my suggestion would be to honor your mind and body. Take the time to realize that if you’re burnt out, you’re not operating at your highest abilities, and that’s not helpful for anyone!
It’s hard to take a step back and turn our minds off because there are so many ways we allow people into our mind and space. Social media, emails, text messages, online videos, the news, group chats, phone notifications, smartwatches, etc. These methods of communication are constantly pinging and vying for our attention throughout the day, and late into the evening. We have to step back, set boundaries, and then be ready to enforce them. Setting these boundaries can be something as simple as setting a bedtime, as difficult as deleting apps, or going even deeper — blocking toxic people from our circles (both online and offline).
What advice would you give to other leaders about how to create a fantastic work culture?
My advice for creating a fantastic work culture is simple: treat your employees and colleagues the way you would like to be treated. The golden rule. It’s so simple, and yet it’s so easily forgotten. As a leader, would you want to be working 40–60+ hours away from your family? No. Would you want to be working for hours with little to no recognition? Probably not. Would you like fair monetary compensation for the use of your gifts, talent, and time? Yes! These things are simple to implement and allow individuals within the company’s culture to feel that they’re part of something wonderful. Not only this, but as they treat employees like members of the corporate “family,” the workers are more inclined to take better ownership of their tasks, and want to do their best in contributing to the successful work of the team.
All that said, if there is one piece of advice to highlight (of the things mentioned above), it would be to make each member feel valued. Note that each team member’s presence, gifts, and talents are appreciated, and integral to the work being put out.
Ok thank you for all that. Now let’s move to the main focus of our interview. Mental health is often looked at in binary terms; those who are healthy and those who have mental illness. The truth, however, is that mental wellness is a huge spectrum. Even those who are “mentally healthy” can still improve their mental wellness. From your experience or research, what are five steps that each of us can take to improve or optimize our mental wellness? Can you please share a story or example for each?
1) Be still, and go to sleep
Reflect on your feelings, where you are, and where you want to go. One of the greatest things about the times we live in is that we have access to technology. But technology can also be a double-edged sword, in that it’s also one of the greatest problems that we face (as it relates to mental health) in these times. There are so many stimulants, screens, and distractions constantly vying for our attention, mental energy, and mental space; social media, jobs, schooling, and “hustles” are all culprits.
One of the most common issues involving mental health and technology is the simple (and constant) battle to shut it off at a decent time — this has made inadequate sleep a way of life for many of us. Being ambitious and proactive are noble traits to possess, but without taking time for mental breathers, rest, and self-evaluation, the practice of constantly feeding into the need to “go, go, go” can be detrimental.
Our “hustle culture” makes it so easy to justify giving our bodies and minds minimal hours of rest, in the name of pushing through to “success.” Success is subjective. What good is success if you’re not well enough to enjoy it? Health starts with mental well-being, and the best way to evaluate our individual perceptions of success is to put the hustle on pause every once in a while. Get still, get clear, and get to sleep — then proceed accordingly! Taking part in this practice will also help you make sure that you’re pushing yourself for the right reasons!
2) Meditate over a gratitude list
As you get rest and clarity on how you spend your days, keeping a journal with a collection of your thoughts and things that you’re grateful for is a great way to evaluate your mental state of being. This can be a wonderful tool in making sure that and that you’re caring for your mental health and on a path of joy, purpose, and overall wellness regularly.
If you find that it’s hard to come up with at least 10 things to be grateful for each day then it may be time to reevaluate your work practices, the company you surround yourself with, and how you spend your time. Meditating over a gratitude list daily develops a grateful heart. As you fortify your heart with gratitude, you’ll see that you’re better equipped to access peace in hard times because you’ve trained it! You’ll already have immediate awareness and access to so many other things that you have to be grateful and joyous about rather than focusing on the problems you can’t control.
3) Create something
One of the most powerful things you can do to optimize your mental health is to put it to work by exercising it! Try to find the words to express yourself. I’ve already mentioned keeping a journal, but if you’re not a writer (where words fail) try to illustrate your sentiments in the best you can — in all the ways you can. Create art! Creativity is a mental gym exercise that promotes joy and smiles.
Art is one of our greatest forms of communication; not only because it’s pretty to look at (and debate), but because it is a direct reflection of the human soul. To create, you first need to feel something. Whatever that something is, put pen to paper or music to movement — just let it out. You find that the act of release will give an instant sense of serenity, which can optimize mental wellness.
4) Engage in Conversation
This is where a great deal of healing occurs in optimizing mental wellness. It’s why people go to therapy. Conversation helps you let go of the things you hold inside (mental and otherwise). This act of letting go helps you clear out rooms in your mental space. By optimizing your mental wellness in this way, you’re able to free up space to think without being bogged down by the (mental) baggage you were hoarding. With this newfound psychological freedom you can then pursue things that bring you more joy and internal fulfillment… ultimately leading to peace!
You’ll find that as you openly share your thoughts, you’ll be able to find a community where you feel free, supported, and understood. You may also get great tips, tricks, and resources to deal specifically with what you’re feeling. Being a part of something bigger (with like-minded people) helps optimize mental wellness because you no longer have to carry the burden of whatever you’re feeling alone. This creates the space for healing and the conversation that supports it.
5) Double-down on your purpose
In considering mental wellness, the best thing you can do is what you’ve been born to do. Don’t fight it. Make a choice to live joyfully in your purpose — whatever that may be. It will save you a lot of mental warfare because the things you pursue will inherently align with whom you are.
So many people exert so much mental wellness trying to force themselves into spaces, places, and positions that were never intended for them! It can be mentally exhausting trying to live for othe; not to mention empty and unfulfilling. When you’re living intentionally in purpose, you find that there’s no time or mental energy to waste! All of your energy, attention, and time is being devoted to chasing the high felt in joy whenever the mission of your purpose is carried out. Not only does operating in purpose help optimize your mental health, it has boundless effects on your overall wellness, and that of others around you. Purpose is the quickest, non-taxing, and most effective ways to start a serenity cycle!
In these times I’ve been super inspired by my purpose. While a lot of the world has fallen victim to the fear and anxiety of COVID-19 and quarantine life, I have been finding myself working overtime. It is my job to lead others to joy through purpose. So I’ve been cranking out more content, developing additional programs and events (like my LRM Virtual Fiestas), and making myself available to help others through these weird times. I recognize that people are ill and there has been a lot of death, but I also believe that in these times, the spirits and souls of many people will awaken to their calling. By doubling down on my purpose (of promoting joyful living) I can cultivate a space for others to transform their fears into purpose-filled joy too!
If you’re looking to get started on the journey of finding joy through purpose, The Joy Quest could be an amazing way to put you on that path of discovery.
Much of my expertise focuses on helping people to plan for after retirement. Retirement is a dramatic ‘life course transition’ that can impact one’s health. In addition to the ideas you mentioned earlier, are there things that one should do to optimize mental wellness after retirement? Please share a story or an example for each.
YES, I also work with people in retirement! I love this question because I don’t think many people consider how the transition into retirement can be a tough one. We typically think retirement is a time of glee, rest, and relaxation — and it can be, if you feel that you’re spending your time well. But if you don’t have a purpose (even in retirement), you can still end up feeling lost, stuck, and empty — even worse, unforeseeable circumstances may prevent you from being able to enjoy it.
Someone told me about a woman who worked for 30 years at a company, carefully saving her retirement in anticipation for the adventure that awaited her on the other side. A week after retiring, that woman died of a heart attack. There was another instance where my mother was telling me about one of her former co-workers who retired just last year. He passed away earlier this year from cancer. All that time spent working and “doing the right thing,” and what should have been his “golden years” was short-lived and spent in hospitals. Sadly these stories aren’t uncommon.
On the other hand there is a lovely older woman from the UK who lives across the street from me, and she has lived. She’s in her mid-late 70, but has the energy of a 50-something, and the spirit of someone in their 30s. She still lives on her own, drives herself around, and is sharp as a tack. Whenever we cross paths, she’s always sharing stories about her youth, or letting me know what’s on her agenda for the day. Sometimes it’s a jewelry making class, other times it’s volunteering at the senior citizens’ home, and every once in a while she will even go visit her boyfriend! The point is this; she isn’t idly sitting around in her retirement. She has purpose — places to go, people to see, and meaningful things to do every single day. The effects of this purpose radiate in her life, and she always has a pleasant smile on her face.
So awareness of joy through purpose is important, no matter what season of life you’re in. Having said all this, the first thing I would tell people in retirement (looking to optimize mental wellness) is this: forget the rules and get PLAYFUL! To all my retirees, now is the time to do what you want! So much of your life has probably been spent doing what is “right” or “expected,” and caring for others. Know that now is the time you get to live fully for yourself — it’s time to be selfish. This option has always been there, but now you can stop feeling guilty about it. Not that you needed to feel guilty to begin with… but that’s a topic for another time.
My point is, so often we do things to avoid being judged. Here’s the thing: you’ll be judged anyway. So you might as well do the things you love, and live in pursuit of those things that will ultimately bring you the most joy!
How about teens and preteens? Are there any specific new ideas you would suggest for teens and preteens to optimize their mental wellness?
For all of my teens and pre-teens, I have these two tips to optimize your mental wellness. One tip isn’t really a “new concept” but it’s one that can afford repetition, and the other is a unique spin on an old classic: 1) limit time on social media, and 2) forget about religion. Parents reading this… just hear me out. :)
The tip about social media may be self-explanatory, but limiting time (or getting off of social media altogether) will allow you the freedom to get to know yourself without the added pressure of constant competition and comparison. This may seem like such a throwaway thought, but it has become common practice to submit ourselves to being validated and approved by people we barely know. So much of how we view ourselves (social media or not) is determined by how others see us and overshadowing expectations that we aim to live up to. Think about popularity contests, and high school social hierarchies before the internet even became mainstream. Social media has just made the side-effects of this validation more accessible, more widespread, and its effects farther reaching. Before, you may not have cared about the thoughts of other people if you weren’t around them. Now, thanks to social metrics and engagement, you’re probably constantly inclined to consider how “like-able” you are — even if you’re in a room by yourself. This is something that’s not only true for teens and pre-teens, it also applies to adults.
Another thing to consider is how social media has long-term effects on self-discovery: how we see ourselves, how we engage with our personal likes/dislikes, and our abilities to live authentically. For the next paragraph (or two) I would like to address the teens directly.
By allowing yourself to unplug from social (and societal expectations), you give yourself permission and time to learn who you truly are at your core. This is the first step to putting yourself on the path of discovery towards your purpose and calling! In a time where so many people are aiming to reach the status of being an “influencer,” knowing who you are at your core will allow you to lead with the compass of your heart in deciding who you should be influenced by and why. It goes beyond pretty pictures, and catchy captions. How will the content you consume fuel your purpose? And for those of you (teens and pre-teens) looking to take on the responsibility of having a career as an influencer, being clear on who you are (and the purpose that you serve) will support your ability to become authentically influential without getting burnt out. Having this self-awareness will help you stand out from the crowd; but the first step in getting there is getting familiar and being comfortable with yourself and who you are.
The second thing I would suggest to teens and pre-teens in optimizing mental awareness, is to forget religion. Now when I say this, I don’t mean go around doing whatever you want without considering the ramifications of any actions you may take. Rather, I would encourage you to replace religion with relationship — a relationship with faith. Think about engaging with your faith and spiritual relationship in the same way you would with any other relationship that you’d want to succeed. Water your relationship with faith by using the same relationship-building elements that you would a new girlfriend/boyfriend: 1) Quality time 2) Willingness to understand and learn, and 3) Trust.
As you interact with spirituality (and even religion) through this lens, it will make the experience of leaning on faith a more tangible, pleasurable, and fulfilling experience. You’ll find that as your spiritual relationship deepens, the more you’ll seek approval and answers based on faith, versus answers from peers and strangers you’ve met over the internet. Staying rooted in spiritual awareness, revelation, and dependency of faith will help you gain peace of mind. This peace of mind can positively influence all areas of your life (as a teen) and flow well into your adult life too!
Is there a particular book that made a significant impact on you? Can you share a story?
I’ve read a lot of books over the years, and as cliché as it may sound, the Bible is the one that continues to make the most significant impact on me. For me, the Bible is the book of books; it covers anything and everything you can ever imagine! From the creation of humankind, stories of miracles, the telling of time and things that will happen (through prophecy), historical love stories, and more — the bible touches on it all! But what I appreciate most about this book, through its written script, is the message of FAITH.
No matter what we as humans encounter, faith is the one thing that we can never deny. Even if you’re not affiliated with a particular religion or spiritual practice, everyone practices faith. How? Because faith is, “being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.” (Hebrews 11:1). Faith is just believing. Believing in something, even if it is just yourself!
The Bible is FULL of countless examples of faith and how the mindset of believing (that comes with faith) has shifted impossibilities into the realm of reality since the beginning of time. This faith-based mindset shapes how I live my life, and the way I can affect the world (and help others) through my work because I believe that anything is possible!
Everything I mentioned above is why the bible inspires me, but I’ve been most impacted by how it inspires me. The words in the Bible have an uncanny way of speaking to me when I need them most. It’s my life-map. When I have a question, I pose it in prayer, and in a matter of time my mind, eyes, and Spirit are led to a scripture with the very answer I need. It doesn’t always happen immediately, but sometimes it does. I find the Bible (as a body of work) to be so much more than a book; it is the living word!
You are a person of great influence. If you could start a movement that would bring the most amount of good to the most amount of people, what would that be? You never know what your idea can trigger. :-)
I believe that we’re all people of significant influence. Anyone can influence, create change, and positively impact lives by just showing up in their purpose!
Luckily, God has put me in a position of being led to starting my movement years ago… The Live Rich Movement (LRM)!
The message and mission behind LRM boils down to that same position of being Faith-Fueled and Purpose-Propelled… Knowing that a lot of times you can Live Rich and do MORE while having less. You don’t need to be a millionaire to be happy, make a difference, or touch lives — you just need Purpose, Passion, and FAITH! With those three primary ingredients (and a dash of creativity) you can change the world!
Can you please give us your favorite “Life Lesson Quote”? Do you have a story about how that was relevant in your life?
“You get in life what you have the courage to ask for.” — Oprah Winfrey
I love Oprah. She has been an inspiration to me since I was 7 years old. I came across this quote while I was at a Leadership workshop five years ago. We were told to bring quotes from people we are most inspired by, so naturally I looked for one by her. The most beautiful thing about it was the timing in which the quote came to me.
I was going through a life transition in my career, relationship, and my life where I realized that I was trying to avoid being “annoying,” in order to get to the “next level.” When really, the truth was this: if I never asked, I could never receive! The concept of being an inconvenience was a story and belief that I’d created because I didn’t feel worthy of being in some spaces where I found myself. Luckily, I came to accept that those thoughts weren’t rooted in fact, and it was freeing.
Less than a year later, I found out I was pregnant and this quote took on a whole new meaning. It was a note-to-self of how I wanted to show up in the world, and a reflection of the example I wanted to be for my young daughter. I want her to be brave and feel worthy enough to know that she should ask for everything her heart desires. Even in a world that doesn’t always value the lives of young black girls as much as it should, I want her to know that her star is meant to shine. Her thoughts are worth sharing, her desires are worth pursuing, and there is room for her to craft the life she chooses for herself.
Since then, this short simple quote continues to serve as a gentle reminder that I’m in charge of my destiny — bold requests, get bold results. What’s the worst that could happen? I get a no. But if I can get a yes, it puts me in a position to receive God’s promise of “immeasurably more than I can ask or imagine” (Ephesians 3:20). Who doesn’t want that?!
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