Zorina Alliata Of Open Institute of Technology On Five Things You Need To Create A Highly Successful Career In The AI Industry
An Interview With David Leichner
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Artificial Intelligence is now the leading edge of technology, driving unprecedented advancements across sectors. From healthcare to finance, education to environment, the AI industry is witnessing a skyrocketing demand for professionals. However, the path to creating a successful career in AI is multifaceted and constantly evolving. What does it take and what does one need in order to create a highly successful career in AI?
In this interview series, we are talking to successful AI professionals, AI founders, AI CEOs, educators in the field, AI researchers, HR managers in tech companies, and anyone who holds authority in the realm of Artificial Intelligence to inspire and guide those who are eager to embark on this exciting career path.
As part of this series, we had the pleasure of interviewing Zorina Alliata.
Zorina Alliata is an expert in AI, with over 20 years of experience in tech, and over 10 years in AI itself. As an educator, Zorina Alliata is passionate about learning, access to education and about creating the career you want. She implores us to learn more about ethics in AI, and not to fear AI, but to embrace it.
Thank you so much for joining us in this interview series! Before we dive in, our readers would like to learn a bit about your origin story. Can you share with us a bit about your childhood and how you grew up?
I was born in Romania, and grew up during communism, a very dark period in our history. I was a curious child and my parents, both teachers, encouraged me to learn new things all the time. Unfortunately, in communism, there was not a lot to do for a kid who wanted to learn: there was no TV, very few books and only ones that were approved by the state, and generally very few activities outside of school. Being an “intellectual” was a bad thing in the eyes of the government. They preferred people who did not read or think too much. I found great relief in writing, I have been writing stories and poetry since I was about ten years old. I was published with my first poem at 16 years old, in a national literature magazine.
Can you share with us the ‘backstory’ of how you decided to pursue a career path in AI?
I studied Computer Science at university. By then, communism had fallen and we actually had received brand new PCs at the university, and learned several programming languages. The last year, the fifth year of study, was equivalent with a Master’s degree, and was spent preparing your thesis. That’s when I learned about neural networks. We had a tiny, 5-node neural network and we spent the year trying to teach it to recognize the written letter “A”.
We had only a few computers in the lab running Windows NT, so really the technology was not there for such an ambitious project. We did not achieve a lot that year, but I was fascinated by the idea of a neural network learning by itself, without any programming. When I graduated, there were no jobs in AI at all, it was what we now call “the AI winter”. So I went and worked as a programmer, then moved into management and project management. You can imagine my happiness when, about ten years ago, AI came back to life in the form of Machine Learning (ML).
I immediately went and took every class possible to learn about it. I spent that Christmas holiday coding. The paradigm had changed from when I was in college, when we were trying to replicate the entire human brain. ML was focused on solving one specific problem, optimizing one specific output, and that’s where businesses everywhere saw a benefit. I then joined a Data Science team at GEICO, moved to Capital One as a Delivery lead for their Center for Machine Learning, and then went to Amazon in their AI/ML team.
Can you tell our readers about the most interesting projects you are working on now?
While I can’t discuss work projects due to confidentiality, there are some things I can mention! In the last five years, I worked with global companies to establish an AI strategy and to introduce AI and ML in their organizations. Some of my customers included large farming associations, who used ML to predict when to plant their crops for optimal results; water management companies who used ML for predictive maintenance to maintain their underground pipes; construction companies that used AI for visual inspections of their buildings, and to identify any possible defects and hospitals who used Digital Twins technology to improve patient outcomes and health. It is amazing to see how much AI and ML are already part of our everyday lives, and to recognize some of it in the mundane around us.
None of us are able to achieve success without some help along the way. Is there a particular person who you are grateful for who helped get you to where you are? Can you share a story about that?
When you are young, there are so many people who step up and help you along the way. I have had great luck with several professors who have encouraged me in school, and an uncle who worked in computers who would take me to his office and let me play around with his machines. I now try to give back and mentor several young people, especially women who are trying to get into the field. I volunteer with AnitaB and Zonta, as well as taking on mentees where I work.
As with any career path, the AI industry comes with its own set of challenges. Could you elaborate on some of the significant challenges you faced in your AI career and how you managed to overcome them?
I think one major challenge in AI is the speed of change. I remember after spending my Christmas holiday learning and coding in R, when I joined the Data Science team at GEICO, I realized the world had moved on and everyone was now coding in Python. So, I had to learn Python very fast, in order to understand what was going on.
It’s the same with research — I try to work on one subject, and four new papers are published every week that move the goal posts. It is very challenging to keep up, but you just have to adapt to continuously learn and let go of what becomes obsolete.
Ok, let’s now move to the main part of our interview about AI. What are the 3 things that most excite you about the AI industry now? Why?
- Creativity
Generative AI brought us the ability to create amazing images based on simple text descriptions. Entire videos are now possible, and soon, maybe entire movies. I have been working in AI for several years and I never thought creative jobs will be the first to be achieved by AI. I am amazed at the capacity of an algorithms to create images, and to observe the artificial creativity we now see for the first time.
2. Abstraction
I think with the success and immediate mainstream adoption of Generative AI, we saw the great appetite out there for automation and abstraction. No one wants to do boring work and summarizing documents; no one wants to read long websites, they just want the gist of it. If I drive a car, I don’t need to know how the engine works and every equation that the engineers used to build it — I just want my car to drive. The same level of abstraction is now expected in AI. There is a lot of opportunity here in creating these abstractions for the future.
3. Opportunity
I like that we are in the beginning of AI, so there is a lot of opportunity to jump in. Most people who are passionate about it can learn all about AI fully online, in places like Open Institute of Technology. Or they can get experience working on small projects, and then they can apply for jobs. It is great because it gives people access to good jobs and stability in the future.
What are the 3 things that concern you about the AI industry? Why? What should be done to address and alleviate those concerns?
- Fairness
The large companies that build LLMs spend a lot of energy and money into making them fair. But it is not easy. Us, as humans, are often not fair ourselves. We even have problems agreeing what fairness even means. So, how can we teach the machines to be fair? I think the responsibility stays with us. We can’t simply say “AI did this bad thing.”
2. Regulation
There are some regulations popping up but most are not coordinated or discussed widely. There is controversy, such as regarding the new California bill SB1047, where scientists take different sides of the debate. We need to find better ways to regulate the use and creation of AI, working together as a society, not just in small groups of politicians.
3. Awareness
I wish everyone understood the basics of AI. There is denial, fear, hatred that is created by doomsday misinformation. I wish AI was taught from a young age, through appropriate means, so everyone gets the fundamental principles and understands how to use this great tool in their lives.
For a young person who would like to eventually make a career in AI, which skills and subjects do they need to learn?
I think maybe the right question is: what are you passionate about? Do that, and see how you can use AI to make your job better and more exciting! I think AI will work alongside people in most jobs, as it develops and matures.
But for those who are looking to work in AI, they can choose from a variety of roles as well. We have technical roles like data scientist or machine learning engineer, which require very specialized knowledge and degrees. They learn computing, software engineering, programming, data analysis, data engineering. There are also business roles, for people who understand the technology well but are not writing code. Instead, they define strategies, design solutions for companies, or write implementation plans for AI products and services. There is also a robust AI research domain, where lots of scientists are measuring and analyzing new technology developments.
With Generative AI, new roles appeared, such as Prompt Engineer. We can now talk with the machines in natural language, so speaking good English is all that’s required to find the right conversation.
With these many possible roles, I think if you work in AI, some basic subjects where you can start are:
- Analytics — understand data and how it is stored and governed, and how we get insights from it.
- Logic — understand both mathematical and philosophical logic.
- Fundamentals of AI — read about the history and philosophy of AI, models of thinking, and major developments.
As you know, there are not that many women in the AI industry. Can you advise what is needed to engage more women in the AI industry?
Engaging more women in the AI industry is absolutely crucial if you want to build any successful AI products. In my twenty years career, I have seen changes in the tech industry to address this gender discrepancy. For example, we do well in school with STEM programs and similar efforts that encourage girls to code. We also created mentorship organizations such as AnitaB.org who allow women to connect and collaborate. One place where I think we still lag behind is in the workplace. When I came to the US in my twenties, I was the only woman programmer in my team. Now, I see more women at work, but still not enough. We say we create inclusive work environments, but we still have a long way to go to encourage more women to stay in tech. Policies that support flexible hours and parental leave are necessary, and other adjustments that account for the different lives that women have compared to men. Bias training and challenging stereotypes are also necessary, and many times these are implemented shoddily in organizations.
Ethical AI development is a pressing concern in the industry. How do you approach the ethical implications of AI, and what steps do you believe individuals and organizations should take to ensure responsible and fair AI practices?
Machine Learning and AI learn from data. Unfortunately, lot of our historical data shows strong biases. For example, for a long time, it was perfectly legal to only offer mortgages to white people. The data shows that. If we use this data to train a new model to enhance the mortgage application process, then the model will learn that mortgages should only be offered to white men. That is a bias that we had in the past, but we do not want to learn and amplify in the future.
Generative AI has introduced a new set of fresh risks, the most famous being the “hallucinations.” Generative AI will create new content based on chunks of text it finds in its training data, without an understanding of what the content means. It could repeat something it learned from one Reddit user ten years ago, that could be factually incorrect. Is that piece of information unbiased and fair?
There are many ways we fight for fairness in AI. There are technical tools we can use to offer interpretability and explainability of the actual models used. There are business constraints we can create, such as guardrails or knowledge bases, where we can lead the AI towards ethical answers. We also advise anyone who build AI to use a diverse team of builders. If you look around the table and you see the same type of guys who went to the schools, you will get exactly one original idea from them. If you add different genders, different ages, different tenures, different backgrounds, then you will get ten innovative ideas for your product, and you will have addressed biases you’ve never even thought of.
Can you please share the “Five Things You Need To Create A Highly Successful Career In The AI Industry”?
I created a handy acronym for my suggested 5 things (SHALL):
S (Solving Problems)
H (Heuristics)
A (Applied AI)
L (Learn continuously)
L (Logic — mathematical and formal)
1. Solving Problems (S)
At the heart of AI is the ability to solve complex problems. Successful AI experts are skilled at detecting problems and devising inventive solutions. This requires critical thinking, inventiveness, and a thorough understanding of the problem domain. Problem-solving abilities are required to make significant contributions to the AI industry, whether improving algorithms or building intelligent systems.
2. Heuristics (H)
Heuristics are strategies or approaches that simplify decision-making and problem-solving. Heuristics are important in AI because they help design efficient algorithms and models. Understanding and utilizing heuristics can help you develop more successful AI solutions, particularly when dealing with huge datasets or complicated scenarios. Mastering heuristics enables you to make more informed decisions and boost the performance of AI systems.
3. Applied AI (A)
Gaining hands-on experience through projects, internships, and collaborations is vital for understanding how to apply AI in various industries and domains. Use Kaggle or get a free cloud account and start experimenting. You will have projects to discuss at your next interviews.
4. Learn Continuously (L)
To stay ahead, you must be committed to constant learning. This includes staying current with the newest research, attending conferences, taking online courses, and participating in workshops. A lifelong learning mentality keeps you aware and adaptive, preparing you to face new problems and possibilities in the AI business.
5. Logic — Mathematical and Formal (L)
A strong foundation in logic, both mathematical and formal, is essential for a career in AI. This comprises knowledge of linear algebra, calculus, probability, and statistics, as well as formal logic and reasoning. These abilities are essential for creating and analyzing AI algorithms and models. A good understanding of logic enables you to build strong and dependable AI systems capable of performing complicated tasks effectively.
Continuous learning and upskilling are vital in a dynamic field like AI. How do you approach ongoing education and stay up-to-date with the latest advancements in the AI industry? What advice do you have for those looking to grow their careers in AI?
I am constantly checking out arxiv.org and Google Scholar, and I follow all the important scientists on social media, so I can keep up with the latest developments. Generative AI is a brand-new technology and it is far from perfect, so there is a lot of work to help it to grow and improve. Using RAG solutions, fine tuning, graphs, agents, all these new developments are trying to make the most out of this huge knowledge base we have at our fingertips. This is the part of AI where businesses are at right now, so if you are looking for a career, this is where you should focus.
There are many other interesting areas of development in AI. Causality, for example, tries to add depth and meaning to predicting outcomes. Responsible AI is its own domain, growing larger as companies start to comply with laws and regulations around the world. If your interest is in policy or social work, this is a great area to work in. There are also scientists working on replicating human intelligence fully — creating AGI (Artificial general Intelligence), with the same capabilities as a human brain. Cognitive Sciences contributes here as well, linking in biological considerations. Another domain is robotics, and using it to embody AI. All of these are amazing opportunities, and truly there is something to choose no matter where your interest is.
What is your favorite “Life Lesson Quote”? Can you share a story of how that had relevance to your own life?
I love this quote by Alan Kay: “The best way to predict the future is to invent it.” I like doing things and delivering results. While my husband is fascinated by history and can discuss a certain historical event for hours, I am passionate about the future. What will be built next? How can we get better? How do we make a better life for everyone? How do we travel to the stars? That is why I read and write sci-fi, and that is why I probably ended up working in AI — it is a chance to build something for that wonderful future.
You are a person of great influence. If you could start a movement that would bring the most amount of good to the most amount of people, what would that be?
I truly believe technology can help us live better lives and it can be a great tool for all of us. I would organize a Global Better Future initiative where all countries come together to discuss the long-term future. Where do we want to be? Peace, prosperity, healthcare for all. Then let’s work backwards from there and create that roadmap to get it done, using all the tools we have created.
How can our readers further follow your work online?
Please follow me on LinkedIn, where I post links and resources. I also have a few courses on Udemy, and then my fiction books are for sale on Amazon!
This was very inspiring. Thank you so much for joining us!
About The Interviewer: David Leichner is a veteran of the Israeli high-tech industry with significant experience in the areas of cyber and security, enterprise software and communications. At Cybellum, a leading provider of Product Security Lifecycle Management, David is responsible for creating and executing the marketing strategy and managing the global marketing team that forms the foundation for Cybellum’s product and market penetration. Prior to Cybellum, David was CMO at SQream and VP Sales and Marketing at endpoint protection vendor, Cynet. David is a member of the Board of Trustees of the Jerusalem Technology College. He holds a BA in Information Systems Management and an MBA in International Business from the City University of New York.
