SaaStr Annual 2018 Takeaways: Pre-Seed is the New Seed for SaaS Entrepreneurs

Charles Hudson, Precursor Ventures

Brian Parks
Bigfoot Capital
3 min readMar 22, 2018

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Image Source: http://christophjanz.blogspot.com/2016/05/what-does-it-take-to-raise-capital-in.html (note this is a piece created by Christoph Janz. Its usage here is to provide a barometer for pre-seed vs. seed stage)

Speaker

Charles Hudson — Managing Partner / Precursor VC

Description

The institutional seed round is no longer the first step in the journey for many SaaS entrepreneurs. As the bar for raising seed capital for SaaS companies has gone up, pre-seed firms have sprouted up to provide that first round of capital to help companies get started. We will explore what pre-seed firms look for in entrepreneurs as well as what entrepreneurs need to achieve with pre-seed capital to unlock the elusive institutional seed round.

Takeaways

What is Precursor’s Pre-Seed Capital For?

  • Capital to prove out a thesis you have. Precursor does not have requirements for traction or metrics.
  • The aim is to be useful and helpful, not have control (don’t take a board seat).
  • 18 month pre-seed map: 3 months finishing getting product into market , 6 months gathering data and refining, 9 months in market.
  • 5–10% dilution from pre-seed round.
If you can’t do this, you’re going to have a really tough time raising a seed round.

What Seed & Series A Funds Say They Want to See

  • Seed funds want to see capital efficient, initial revenue traction: $10-$25k MRR on $1M capital deployed. Charles thinks this is a lot to achieve on $1M in capital.
  • Seed investors are looking for early indicators of success: Primary indicator is velocity. The best companies go from pre-seed to seed in ~12 months. That is, from inception to product launch to revenue.
  • Series A funds want to see 10x MRR from Seed: looking for $250k MRR. Note: I believe this is applicable to $5M+ A rounds coming out of the Valley.
  • Going from Seed to Series A: Companies have to 10x from seed to series A on $2M capital and 18 months. No wonder “Series A crunch” became a thing.

What Charles has seen in his portfolio of companies that have raised a seed round is that the data do not jive with what the seed investors are saying.

Precursor Ventures Portfolio Data

How to make your life difficult when trying to go from pre-seed to seed:

  • Choose a category that people believe is too crowded (eg., martech).
  • Try to build an Enterprise product on a pre-seed budget (doesn’t give you enough time).
  • Make little progress per unit of time (back to the momentum/velocity as a huge strength).
  • Have a poor relationship between sales effort and customer ACV (eg., 9-month sales cycle for $5k).

Catch All Takeaways

  • Charles doesn’t know if he would raise VC unless the market forced him into it (e.g., because of competition).
  • 2 of Precursor’s 4 best-performing companies did not have a technical Founder. That’s at least 50%.
  • Charles advises companies not to do more than 2 convertible notes between priced rounds.
  • It generally requires 40–50 intros and 2 quarters to get a seed round done, so Founders executing that capital path should be raising 6–9 months after taking pre-seed money.

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Brian Parks
Bigfoot Capital

I work in finance with startups and, on occasion, write about things completely unrelated to both.