Clean Coffee #4

Alicia
Alicia
Jun 7 · 5 min read
Selfie time!

Topics we talked about

  • Is carbon offsetting sending the wrong message? E.g. that flying is still OK if I offset it? 🙋🏽🙋🏽🙋🏽🙋🏽
  • How can we (tech company employees) persuade our companies not to sell to entities that are harming the climate (eg. oil & gas industry)? The common stance seems to be “we’ll sell it if it’s legal”. 🙋🏽🙋🏽🙋🏽
  • How can we get more people involved in the climate action movements?🙋🏽 🙋🏽🙋🏽
  • How best to orchestrate the (possibly sporadic) collaboration of climate-minded volunteers on tech projects? in a way that allows us all to share in contributing expertise 🙋🏽 🙋🏽🙋🏽

Topics we didn’t have time to talk about

  • How might we make videoconferencing a viable alternative to flying and travelling. What are we missing, what do we need to consider? 🙋🏽🙋🏽
  • What is the minimum viable sustainability policy you could have if you don’t have one? 🙋🏽 🙋🏽
  • How do I fit this into my working practices? Can it fit into an agile team structure? 🙋🏽
  • Something that came up in Slack: how can we leverage the designers community to push for greener choices in terms of tools 🙋🏽
  • The climate-active people I’m working with do not come from Tech. We have mismatched expectations (ex: Minimum-Viable-Product-and-iterate versus Why-Don’t-You-Just-Finish-a-Polished-App-Immediately). Patient explanation isn’t really working. Fortunately this is by no means the first time Tech and non-Tech have interfaced. Suggestions on how to handle?
  • How can you change the perception of the web so that, it embodies some more values we see as progressive and aware of climate justice? (I.e. of course the internet does not on fossil fuels?)

Notes & links from the topics we discussed

Topic 1: Is carbon offsetting sending the wrong message? E.g. that flying is still OK if I offset it?

  • Blanket taxes on aviation are often considered regressive, but people working on policy to account for the fact that most of the flying is done by a relatively small minority like, like the Frequent Flyer Levy from A Free Ride (15% are responsible for more than 70% of flights in the UK)
  • Drink driving (or “drunk driving” for US readers) was once socially acceptable, it isn’t anymore. What will it take for a 3-day trip from London to New York, say, to also be deemed socially unacceptable? How much can you realistically achieve during that trip? This report, Mainstreaming Low Carbon Lifestyles from Climate Outreach goes into detail on this, with a long study, and comparing attitudes to smoking.
  • In Sweden there is a concept known as “flygskam” — flight shame!
“Ground travel is the new vegan”

AWS employees on climate change


Small tweaks

It’s not agile without cards ;)

Clean Coffee

Clean Coffee is a remote meeting that takes place once a month where people working in tech discuss ways to tackle climate change in their organisations

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Team player. Facilitator. Data scientist. Runner. Cyclist. Feminist.

Clean Coffee

Clean Coffee is a remote meeting that takes place once a month where people working in tech discuss ways to tackle climate change in their organisations