Horayos: Even The Sadducees Admit

Yaakov Shore
Dew of your Youth
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2 min readApr 8, 2018
Sadducee

So I have some opinions about this that I don’t have time to write about / fully flesh out, so I’ll just mention some questions.

The Talmud says:

אמר רב יהודה אמר שמואל אין ב”ד חייבין עד שיורו בדבר שאין הצדוקין מודין בו אבל בדבר שהצדוקין מודין בו פטורין מאי טעמא זיל קרי בי רב הוא

Rav Yehuda said that Shmuel said — the court is not liable (to bring a korban) unless they instruct regarding something that the Sadducees don’t admit to, but on a matter which the Sadducees admit they are exempt — because “go study by a teacher”

If you read Rashi, he seems to learn that the claim that he should have learnt better is not on the Beis Din but rather on the individual. This is rather problematic (I’m aware that some change the גירסא in Rashi to be plural — which implies the Beis Din).

The simple פשט is that the instruction is not a valid instruction because it is close to a מזיד on behalf of the בית דין.

One interesting thing thing is that there are various places where we are מיקל against the simple פשט of the Torah because of a דרשה. The first two that come to mind are leaving our houses on the Sabbath, leaving fire burning from before the Sabbath and a זבה being טהורה without מים חיים (this is not a comprehensive list and I’m only listing things which are כרת). Should we not listen to the חכמים on these matters b/c the Sadducees disagree? (Rhetorical question) What does this teach us about the relationship between the oral law and פשוטו של מקרא?

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Yaakov Shore
Dew of your Youth

Rabbi, Front End Developer, Banjo Enthusiast and Dad