How An Artist Can Find Their Tribe by Markus Redmond

(Watch the video interview on Youtube here)

Film Courage:

You said something a moment ago…”find your tribe.” As someone who may have felt like an outsider (and I only say this because I’ve felt like one my entire life), how do you find your tribe? There’s a tendency to want a “glob on to,” meaning you want to fit in with this group because you think that it’s is going to take you where you need to go, but it’s not really a fit. How do you know what your tribe is?

Markus Redmond:

You don’t. You just don’t. You just do what you love, man. It’s all you can do. All you can do is do what you want to do. That’s how you find them. Who those people are gonna be…no idea. But you just have to do what you do. If you do what they do, then you’re chasing their tribe and they’re not necessarily your tribe. So you’re just chasing after people, like you know, people pleasing, which is something I’ve had a problem with the past. You can’t do that. It’s not good for you and it’s not good for them. You’re really wasting everybody’s time when you try to please everybody, you know I mean? I think you just have to do what you do. “Do you” as the kids say.

Film Courage:

That’s interesting. Why isn’t it good for them? I can see why it wouldn’t be good for the individual trying to be the people pleaser, eventually you’ll either let them down and they’ll get mad at you or whatever, but why not for them? Why does people pleasing hurt the group?

Markus: Why does it hurt the group you’re trying to please? Well, eventually you can keep it up. It’s a lie because you’re basically telling a bunch of people that they can depend on you to do what they want. It’s not what you want. You’re gonna crack eventually and then it’s going to be a waste of their time and your time. So why do it? Who cares? You don’t just have to love what you love. There’s seven billion people on the planet. I guarantee at least three of them love what you love. That’s all you really need. You just need to find three other people like you, that are good, that like what you like. And they’re out there. You just have to do what you do and follow that. The truer you can be to yourself and what you dig, the better I think it is for everybody, because this stuff is hard. It’s not easy to make movies and all this stuff. You might as well love it. If you’re gonna do hard stuff, do hard stuff they’re going to pay you tons of money for. You know what I mean? Go do math.

Film Courage: Architecture…

Markus: Architecture…go be an architect. That’s hard but you know they’ll pay a lot of money upfront, it’s better. I think you have to do this because you love it, because it’s burning in you.

Film Courage: So let’s take an example of someone trying to be a people pleaser as an actor, filmmaker and then another way, to not engage in people pleasing, but still be dependable.

Markus: So if you’re an actor or a filmmaker or both you want to be dependable to people you end up working but you don’t want to be a people pleaser.

Film Courage: Right, what’s an example of each?

Markus: I think it’s the same thing, just doing what you love. Because the thing is, if you love doing something, you’re gonna do it. People don’t do anything they don’t want to do and they only do what they have to do…

Film Courage: Well sometimes for a paycheck…(this interview is continued here via FilmCourage Youtube)