Unapologetic Women

In Episode 1 of No, You Go, we talk to badass women who made big changes in their lives—and ask how they new it was time for something new.

Sara Wachter-Boettcher
Strong Feelings

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It’s our very first episode! Jenn, Katel, and Sara get together to talk about the itch to get out of a professional rut and start something new — whether that’s changing jobs, launching a company, building a side gig, or maybe even…idk….starting a podcast?

Fuck it, let’s just do it. Let’s be unapologetic women asking to do work, and to be paid fairly for it.
— Becca Gurney, co-founder,
Design Choice

Read on for more of what we covered, and read the full transcript for all the, like, verbatim quotes, you know?

Show notes

First, we tell the story of how No, You Go got started:

  • Sara has an idea, but forgets that Austin Kleon already wrote a book called Show Your Work and narrowly avoids totally ripping him off.
  • Jenn shares what it’s like to trade a thousand side projects for some stability — and, oh yeah, one super-cool baby.
  • Katel opens up about how working at home alone can get, well, lonely — and asks us to join her “awesome after-school kickass club.”
  • We all fully embrace the athleisure lifestyle.

Next, we kick off the show — and 2018 — by hearing how four women who made big changes last year knew it was time for something new:

  • Becca Gurney, co-founder of Design Choice, tells us how the pay gap in the AIGA Design Census plus the 2016 election turned her from freelance designer to outspoken advocate for equality in design.
  • Jenn Schiffer, community engineer for Fog Creek’s Glitch platform, shares how fear kept her stuck in a rut and not doing her best work — until an opportunity to build community for other engineers brought her life back.
  • Lara Hogan, co-founder of Where With All, describes how meeting her now-business-partner led her away from managing engineering teams and toward building a consulting business.
  • Mina Markham, senior front-end architect at Slack (and creator of the famed Pantsuit design system used by the Hillary Clinton campaign), describes trusting her gut to guide her through three new jobs and three cross-country moves in just three years.

Also in this episode

Olivia Pope trusts her gut. We trust Olivia Pope wineglasses.

Many thanks to The Diaphone for the use of their song, Maths, in our theme music!

No, You Go is a weekly podcast about being ambitious, building a career that won’t make you miserable, and finding friends who’ll high-five you along the way. Hosted by Jenn Lukas, Katel LeDu, and Sara Wachter-Boettcher. Produced by EDITAUDIO. Made with ❤ in Philadelphia.

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Sara Wachter-Boettcher
Strong Feelings

I help folks in tech and design build sustainable careers and healthy teams. Author @wwnorton @abookapart @rosenfeldmedia. More at www.activevoicehq.com.