Inside the UFO Echo Chamber

Lue Elizondo Talks ‘Biological Samples’ and ‘Occupancy’

Lue Elizondo’s latest round with Canadian podcaster Curt Jaimungal about UFOs deserves a global audience. Why are the most extraordinary and arguably important conversations on the planet confined to Podcastland?

David Bates
Point of Contact
Published in
10 min readOct 23, 2021

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He’s here, he’s there, he’s everywhere: Since his appearance on 60 Minutes last spring, former Pentagon official Luis Elizondo has become an interview machine. But is he only expanding the conversation with people who already agree with him?

FORMER PENTAGON OFFICIAL LUIS ELIZONDO continued his dance on the pin of his Non-Disclosure Agreement this week and dropped several bombshells, with Curt Jaimungal on his Theories of Everything podcast and also on Thomas Fessler’s Disclosure Tonight show on YouTube.

With Jaimungal, Elizondo carefully hinted that “potentially” the U.S. government has acquired otherworldly biological samples. He also suggested that the government has images of UAPs that appear to show beings inside them. And with Fessler earlier in the week, Elizondo basically came out and — in yet another of those meticulously worded sentences where body language is everything and the glide path between the lines is wide and clear — said he believes the Roswell UFO crash story. “100 percent,” he said.

The first time many Americans saw Elizondo was last summer on 60 Minutes, where he appeared visibly uncomfortable…

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