A Trail of the Saucers Investigation

Some of those UAPs are out of this world — and the Pentagon Knows It

Private emails published by Wikileaks — written by a former IT contractor and sent to Clinton/Obama insider John Podesta — refer to American tracking of UFOs arriving from ‘deep space.’

David Bates
Need to Know
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13 min readJul 12, 2021
Chinese/Russian flag montage by Stellar

The recent U.S. government report on UAPs and comments from current and former intelligence officials repeatedly fall back on the refrain that those ‘Tic Tacs’ and other mysterious objects buzzing Navy warships may be advanced aircraft built by Russia or China.

They say that — but they know it’s not true.

In yet another example of a UFO puzzle piece hiding in full view and ignored by the mainstream media, emails published in 2016 by Wikileaks refer to regular tracking of UAPs that’s allegedly recorded them arriving from “deep space” and disappearing beneath the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Florida.

The emails — between Hillary Clinton’s former campaign chairman John Podesta and former IT contractor Bob Fish — were publicly available in 2016 as reporters Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal were working on a story for the New York Times disclosing that the Pentagon had been secretly studying UFOs for the past decade. However, neither that groundbreaking article, nor any subsequent reporting on the phenomenon by other mainstream media outlets has mentioned the Podesta-Fish emails.

While it’s possible to deduce some reasons for that, first let’s take a closer look at Podesta and Fish and then at the emails themselves.

The Players

John Podesta

John Podesta is a familiar name amongst ufologists and in political circles, although less so to the general public. The 72-year-old Democratic political operative served in the White House under Presidents Bill Clinton (as Chief-of-Staff from 1998–2001) and Barack Obama (as Counselor from 2014–15).



David Bates
Need to Know