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Alexander Zubrilkin, Ornament Project Manager

Every person here is an individual, not a cog in the system

Ornament Health AG

- How did you start working at Ornament and what did you do before?

- I’ve been at Ornament for a year now. Before that, I worked for 11 years in the IT industry of oilfield services. I was a programmer, team leader, project manager, and manager on business processes improvement. I hadn’t considered relocating to Montenegro at all, but I couldn’t refuse the offer from Ornament. The hiring manager found me through one of the recruitment services and, after a few interviews, I decided to move. Everything’s turned out well.

- What are the advantages of working at a startup? What are the disadvantages?

- On the plus side, there’s no bureaucracy to deal with. All of our questions are resolved as quickly as possible and the team has a common goal to strive for. There’s nobody who has to sit at work going from call-to-call or meeting-to-meeting. Everyone here is an individual, not a cog in the system. But, of course, as with any new business, there are a lot of work processes that still need to be set up.

- Within liberal arts jobs, IT people are often considered special, like they have a completely different style of thinking. Do you agree with that?

- More yes than no. There is, of course, a difference in thinking. Liberal arts people have a more creative way of thinking, generating new ideas. The IT people have a more consistent mindset, focused on practical results. I’m only saying this from my own experience, though, and in no way am I hanging up categorical labels on these or those groups of people.

- Now, a lot of people work remotely, while you work in an office. Aren’t you jealous? Is an office even necessary these days?

- In an office, nothing distracts you from your work and you’re more focused on your tasks. Issues that require communication and discussion are handled more effectively. Again, sometimes office work may be different. You can spend 1 ½ hour in a stuffy subway to work, or there can be an office of 40 people waiting for you, where you can walk 15 minutes along the sea to a cozy house with table tennis, yoga, and a grill on the roof. So I’m not complaining. However, given our current circumstances and trends, I think that remote work will still be the main form of work for the IT world.

- How is developing a mobile app fundamentally different from developing, for example, a website?

- It’s harder to make a mobile app because the standard set of mobile platforms and devices is much larger than the set of standard browsers that need to be supported.

- As a project manager, you’re responsible for hiring new employees, among other things. What do you pay attention to during the interview?

- Besides the skills, it is always interesting to know what countries and companies the person have worked for and to see how often they’ve changed jobs. During the interview, it’s very important to understand how a person can think, solve problems, and communicate their thoughts to others. It’s important to understand their emotional state and motivation. If a person shows good technical competence but already contradicts themselves or gives false information during the interview, I would prefer another candidate.

- What about after work? What hobbies and interests do you have?

- I love books about everything in the world, from professional literature to science fiction. After joining Ornament, I’ve grown to like sea fishing and walking along the Adriatic Sea.



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