Uncertain Future: A Discussion On Great Britain’s Vote to Leave the European Union
“We have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe, but not of it. We are interested and associated but not absorbed. If Britain must choose between Europe and the open sea, she must always choose the open sea.” — British House of Commons, May 11, 1953
“Brexit will open up a period of political turmoil and constitutional crisis across the UK and beyond; where it will end for now, no one knows.” — Kirsty Hughes
“A vote to leave is the gamble of the century. And it would be our children’s futures on the table if we were to roll the dice.” — David Cameron
This article is a collaborative effort. It includes original analysis from the creator of the Refuse to Cooperate Blog, Kent Allen Halliburton, but it is based largely upon a debate that took place in the Refuse to Cooperate debate group on Facebook. Kevin Allen presented the original statement, and then it went from there. Kent Allen Halliburton, Christopher Williams, a Refuse to Cooperate contributor, Kristoff von Eichelhardt, Alan Roach, Zach Davidson, James Chandler, Elaine Cantrell, and Suhan Dane, were all part of the original discussion. This discussion was followed up by another, in which, Kelly Wiseman Figueroa inquired of the group as to the meaning and possible repercussions of Britain’s vote to leave the European Union. This discussion involved Mrs. Figueroa, Kent Allen Halliburton, Kevin Allen, Clare Tereasa Gallagher, James Chandler, and Christopher Williams. What follows is a summation of these two discussions mixed in with some analysis by Kent Allen Halliburton on what Brexit could possibly mean for the future of the European Union, the United States, and the World.
Why I think that the BREXIT vote could be the DEATH OF SOCIALISM — Kevin Allen — June 24, 2016
The U.K. voted to “BREXIT” the European Union by a narrow margin yesterday. This came as a shock to both the people of the U.K. and the World. Why did almost 52% of U.K. citizens vote to leave the European Union? Here are a few of suggestions.
First, the European Union is regulated by unelected officials in Brussels. Second, the European Union was dictating how the U.K. could control its own borders. The vote shows that at least England does not want to open its boarders to just anyone any longer. I wonder why? I don’t blame them. Third, the E.U. was trying to tell England that it has to accept refugees. The voters spoke up and said, “what about us?” England is in the midst of a ten year economic slowdown. The voters of England, at least, said they want to have their own say on how their economy is burdened. Fourth, the fact is, only England and Whales showed a willingness to leave and voted to “Leave” the E.U. The rest of the U.K. voted to “Remain” in the E.U. Scotland, Northern Ireland, Newcastle, and Gibraltar ALL voted to “Remain” in the E.U. This became a problem the day after the vote as Scotland and Northern Ireland said they may want out of the U.K. and want to “Remain” in the E.U. This possible split of independence in the U.K. will create a climate of freedom in Europe. Fifth, decisions that impacted the “people” of the U.K., directly, were being made by other people. Unelected officials in Brussels, people in another country that are not elected by the citizens of the U.K. were dictating to the citizens of the U.K., and England said, “no more.” European Union meddlers have forced the UK to make more than 150 changes to laws, ranging from ferrets’ welfare, how fish is labelled, to checks on air-conditioning units.
Sixth, the legislation, which was rubber stamped by a powerless Parliament in Westminster, shows how the EU’s tentacles reach into every aspect of people’s lives, from medicines to housing and transport and from energy to the legal system. There was outrage at these revelations, which were obtained under the Freedom of Information Act. Tory MP Peter Bone said, “We cannot do anything about this legislation. We cannot amend it, we are powerless to stop it. It is fundamentally undemocratic.” Mr. Bone further stated, “If we want to be a self governing nation again, we have to come out of the EU.” This would effect all of Europe and grow quickly. Seventh, the separation of the U.K. from the E.U. was expected to take two years, according to article 50 of the EU Constitution This time may be shorter according to reports made late Friday. Eighth, the domino effect. Italy, France and other EU members are already calling for a referendum in their nations. This would end the European Union’s goal of a socialized Europe, acting as one state instead of a union of individual sovereign entities. The people of England voted that they want their own voice heard. This independence could spread around Europe and spread quickly. Ninth, they are calling it the “Tea & Toast” reaction. You have to understand this from the point of view of the U.K. citizens. It seems that some unelected bureaucrats in Brussels, regulating the European Union, decided that U.K. citizens “Teapots and Toasters” needed to be replaced with lower wattage appliances. So some of the U.K. citizenry suddenly looked up and said: “What in the Hell are unelected officials in Brussels doing in the kitchens of the citizens of the U.K.?” Tenth, oh by the way…the U.K. citizens that wanted to vote “Leave” in the BREXIT referendum were being called “HATERS” because they wanted to control their own borders, their own immigration policy, and most importantly, to have a SAY in their own country and not be dictated to by the EU.
Way to go BRITAIN, for taking back their country!!!
Finally, Eurosocialism is the agenda of the EU. A Federalized Europe is what the EU is wanting and has always wanted. A Federalized United States is one thing. We are a sovereign Country. Having several sovereign countries listen to and obey regulation from someone in another country is NEVER going to work. This BREXIT vote shows that in my opinion the idea of Eurosocialism may be dead, and with it the Euro and socialism in general.
There were definitely some responses to this stance on the Brexit issue.
First, while it is true that EU Commissioners are not elected, the people in the EU Parliament that choose those commissioners are elected. In fact, the U.K. elects several members to this government body, and further, each EU member nation has a commissioner that represents their needs. There are currently twenty eight members of the EU. There are, thus, twenty eight EU commissioners. Second, as regards its borders and the acceptance of refugees, the EU has a very sophisticated judicial system. This means that Britain has more than one way to resist any action that the EU is placing on its shoulders. Third, there was a question as to how the division in the UK over the Brexit vote would usher in a wave of freedom in Europe. The response to this was that it was actually quite possible that Great Britain would be no more and that each of its former member nations would, most likely, be readmitted into the EU piecemeal. Fourth, there was this idea that Britain was being forced by the EU government to do things that it did not want to do. Consider this, when the U.K. signed the EU Constitution, they knew that they would be called upon the make certain sacrifices. Having to do this is a part of what is required to be in a protective economic, social, and political union. Sometimes, a single nation will have to experience a little discomfort so that the whole union can benefit.This does not seem like it has to be too much to ask.
Finally, the biggest question that was raised about this position regarded the use of Socialism in reference to the European Union. There was a fairly uniform consensus on this. Brexit cannot cause the death of something that does not exist. That thing that does not exist is a socialist European Union that has a Eurosocialist agenda. The EU began as an industrial union and evolved slowly, over time, into a monetary union, but at no point in its history did this union embrace socialism. Europe does not consist of a series of states where production is controlled by the workers, which is the real meaning of socialism. It consists of a union of states run by wealthy financial moguls and industrialists. Europe is a union of Capitalist nations. The closest that the EU comes to being even remotely socialist is its adherence to the concept Adam Smith’s Social Safety Net. Europe has one of the finest systems in the world. It has Universal Healthcare, unemployment benefits, free education, a unified currency, and much more; however, saying that Europe is truly socialist is stretching it. This remains the case because, as has already been said, there is that nagging reality that Europe’s means of production are not controlled by its workers. Again, they are controlled by wealthy financial moguls and industrialists. Therefore, Brexit cannot possibly be the death of socialism. It can, however, have some very significant affects upon the future of the European Union, and exiting the socialism discussion, both sides of the discussion agree on that. These details will be discussed with the question of Mrs. Figueroa.
Kent, can you explain to me what the repercussions of Britain opting out of the European Union are? — Kelly Wiseman Figueroa
One of the first things that this vote could is destroy the U.K., not the EU. The split in the vote shows how tenuous the relations inside the U.K. really are. Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to stay. England and Whales voted to leave. How is that going to play out? Northern Ireland leaves and reunites with Ireland. Scotland leaves and joins the EU. Now Whales and England are left alone. They will likely split too, once the economic tensions mount. Then, there will be no U.K., just its former member nations, Ireland, Whales, Scotland, and England. Say goodbye to the Union Jack. Lost without the rest of Britain, England will rejoin the EU. This would help the capitalist moguls of the EU dramatically because each of these nations, by themselves, cannot provide the EU the type of resistance that a unified U.K. can. If the U.K. is not dissolved and successfully remains outside the EU, it is going to have a very hard time staying afloat because it is going to have keep up the standards its people are accustomed to without the help of the EU, and trade wise, it is going to have to renegotiate with every nation in the EU, which will likely raise costs on them and depress their economy even further than it already has been in the last ten years. This has already begun. The vote alone was enough to depress currency values around the world. What happens next? This is where the two sides of the debate begin to come together. A successful Brexit could spell doom for the EU. Already, other nations are clamoring for similar referendums. If one nation after the other leaves the EU, the economic and political unity of Europe will dissolve, giving room for other regional powers, namely Russia, to move in an divide Europe even further than an EU collapse would already have done. This could, further, spell doom for peace in Europe, which was one of the main things that the EU was built to protect. A unified Europe is less likely to implode on itself like it did in the first half of the twentieth century. The EU fears the potential of another huge war, as former allies compete aggressively over finite resources. There is a lot that has yet to unfold, and when it comes down to it, both sides of this discussion can clearly see that what happens next could have repercussions the world over, as old rivalries reignite and new rivalries develop while the global economic system is drastically jolted by the influx of new competitors.