Hypersign — AMA
This is the transcript of the AMA session held on the 22nd of October by the RoundtableDAO team with Irfan Khan and Vikram Bhushan, Co-founders of Hypersign. You can find the full video on the RoundtableDAO’s Youtube Channel.
About Hypersign
Hypersign is an Omni-Chain Decentralised Identity Infrastructure. Its goal is to revolutionize not only the way we authenticate online, but also personal data management and monetization. It aims to give back data ownership to the users and may very well take a share of the personal data market.
Ask me anything — Transcript
Hi guys, this is Astropark from the RoundtableDao team. We are happy to be with Vikram and Irfan from Hypersign. “Hello guys, how are you?”
Irfan: Hi, thanks for having us on again.
Jay: So, welcome to the RoundtableDao show, everybody. As Daniel said, we have Vikram Bhushan a product engineer from a Hypersign with us who will talk. Vikram is a full-stack engineer, front-end architect with over six years of experience and building applications. We also have Irfan Khan a business strategist, who has more than a decade’s experience in working with many government agencies and telecom regulatory authorities. Now, they are going to talk to us today about the latest team product and partnership updates, and they are here especially to talk about a new product called HyperFyre.
So, guys glad to have you with us and excited to hear about this new product.
Vikram: We are also very excited to share with the community, especially RoundtableDao because we always love to talk to the community from RoundtableDao and this is like the first version of the product which is now going out in the market. So, we were doing pre-beta testing with some of our partners, and they all liked it, so this is the first time when we are talking about it openly on a platform.
Jay: So amazing! Very excited to be here.
Astropark: So, this is the HyperFyre deck. I see that it is a nice product, and also you can check out guys at this website link (fire.hypersign.id). It is developed, also you can see here a demo video. So, let’s talk about this HyperFyre product.
Irfan: sure I could go first. So, thanks again guys, always happy to talk to the RoundtableDao. It was a pleasure last time, and I’m enjoying myself again.
So, last time we were here, we had been just done our token launch if you remember, and it was you know as a new project. It’s always crazy during token launch, you know it’s everything is so new, everything is so alien, it’s like what the hell is going on, and it’s like so crazy, and then you have all these things to handle. So, even we were so unsettled and trying to figure out what’s going on, and in about a couple of weeks from that launch, we started noticing that there was something wrong. I mean we couldn’t put our finger on it, but there was something wrong and we started investigating, and we noticed that our token was not doing that well, our community was leaving us, there was a massive disconnect. We had 15,000 people on telegram, we had 8,000 people on Twitter, but none of them had any connection.
All these people are supposed to be our investors. They are supposed to be here because they know Hypersign, and they like Hypersign. But they have no clue like it was just this massive disconnect between the project and all these people who are supposed to be our supporters our investors our followers, and we got to thinking like what’s going on, why is this happening and we kind of figured out that during the process of the launch because you are so excited about launching, your product your token your investors are on your case your community is on your case, you do not pay attention to a lot of things and what typically happens is you come across all these people on telegram who’ll say “you know I’ll support you with your community I will boost your numbers and I will do this, and I will do that”, but the fact of the matter is that the community building that you are doing at that point in time is like 70 percent of bots and 30 of fake users. So, if I have 10,000 followers on my telegram, I can tell you 50 percent is bots and about 30 percent is all.
Astropark: this happens to all projects.
Irfan: And this is a real problem because you are investing time, you are investing money, you are investing so much of your effort, and you are building a following who’s going to be buying your token. You know on bots that are going to buy your token and dump the moment it goes up.
Jay: A lot of vapor.
Irfan: We got to thinking that this is how do you deal with this right. What do we do? How do you bring solutions to this?
We kind of realized that if we had to eliminate if we had to refresh how would we do things differently. So, we went out and when I spoke to a lot of projects say “hey guys what are you guys doing about the community? how are you guys managing this?” We want to make sure that our community is good, they are real, they are happy, the conversations that we are having with them are like making an impact they are holding our tokens. If they have some problems or product, they can come to talk to us, and they’re like “I don’t know the man we don’t have a solution and we’re just using like one product called gleam,” and we’re like okay what is that? then it turns out that everyone’s airdropping and okay airdrops wow that’s awesome I also want airdrop but then when you go to airdrop you have all these google forms all these fake users with like one guy with like 50 wallets
Irfan: Like man what the hell’s going on right? So, we are like okay I think this needs to be discussed, so we go back to the drawing board, and we’re like…
You know these guys are using ABC to build a community that’s fine. Our job is to ensure that we are humanizing, we are verifying, we are authorizing real people. Why don’t we like to put these two together you know what I mean?
So, that was the first use case right, so essentially the Hypersign protocol is identity and access management right so mainly dealing with authentication, verification, authorization, and so on. So, we applied that protocol, put a marketing cover on top of it, and boom you have HyperFyre. So, we built out the first version, we tested it out, we did a very rudimentary front end it sucked actually. Now, it looks sexy and stuff, but now it’s cool but like about two months ago it was horrible man.
Irfan: it was processed right, and we need to test it, but it did well in the first campaign that we did, it had real people. So, because so basically, I will talk about how it works in a minute and I think Vikram will be the best person to do that, but the fact of the matter is that we’ve built the process in such a way that bots cannot get through I mean the level of automation required would be heavy and extensive, although of course, you know these programmers they’re getting extremely sophisticated day by day, we’re still a step ahead of them.
Jay: So, what you’re saying is they’re going to spend too much time trying and crack this thing, and it won’t be worth it.
Irfan: So, we’ve got like multiple layers of filtration I think Vikram will talk about that in a minute, okay, but that’s basically what it is that’s what HyperFyre is. It is ready now it’s ready for use we have more than 20,000 people who have 20,000 users who have used it, it’s web 3 compliant it’s protecting user data, and so most likely by the end of the month, we are officially launching it.
Jay: Amazing okay well okay I can’t wait to hear the details from Vikram.
Vikram: I would like to talk less about the technical things because the technical part was you know already solved and we spent four years trying to understand identity you know before starting sign but the main problem that main research that we could do, and we could pinpoint to when you know there is a pain point for the customer. Why do customers use a Google form for specific to like airdrop and giveaway? Even though gleam and other projects products are there. So, there has to be some reason, right?
Like even though the product is not amazing, but it does the job but why not use gleam? So, when we started talking to them and going back and forth to gleam and other products and talking to our customers again specific to the crypto industry, we got to know that for customers, the major problem is the pricing and problem with pricing with existing you know giveaway tools are that they these tools were built when there was no crypto industry. So, the pricing is built in terms of an industry that doesn’t exist. So, now the crypto industry is trying to use these tools, and it’s not fitting them. Because the use case itself wasn’t there, so the pricing they did was completely different from what a crypto project would require.
And the second one was that the features that we need to whitelist or do giveaways, we don’t have that in any existing platform. You take it to gleam, you take it any four or five you know existing these platforms, they don’t have any features that crypto projects would need for example smart contract verification, on-chain activity, tracking, erc20, NFT standard validations, these are a basic requirement of any you know crypto projects and we don’t have that in a team.
So, what we do, first we pay you to pay four thousand dollars to do one giveaway on gleam like four thousand dollars even though that’s monthly, but a project only does giveaway once in a month. Imagine you have a budget for five thousand dollars worth of tokens to be given to be a giveaway, and then you are paying four thousand dollars to gleam, then the projects would not use gleam. They will just create a Google Form and then end up doing getting to the actual problem of getting having data problems, security problems. So, you know this was like a learning experience for me. I was more of a technical guy but getting outside my shell of being technical and going into product talking to customers, this was my self-realization that it always their value prop for each customer segment starts changing, even though at a broader level. It looks like everyone can use lee for example, but our crypto industry cannot use gleam because that wasn’t built for us. The industry itself has recently come out, and we have our own need, so I thought if every project in crypto is using this product, then somehow my protocol should solve this problem first and then something else. So, it took only two months to build whatever UI we wanted everyone was okay with gleams UX. We were like okay. We will give you what users are used to it internally we will integrate hyper sign and let’s see we can get paid customers and within two months of development, and we have like paying customers we could reach up to eight thousand dollars worth of MRR, and it took like four years for us to research some Damn code which gave us the customer and in one month we have like eight we are touching eight-thousand-dollar MRR and thirty thousand users this is crazy.
Jay: So, the demand is there you, hit the nail on the head.
Vikram: demand is there. You know I was like I don’t care if I am pivoting, but this is the problem. This is where I can get customers. So, for any startup, getting the first few customers are very important. So, now we have very strict deadlines that even before launching our layer 2 we have at least tried to hit those numbers because once we have that, then we don’t have to piggyback on any bigger network, but we are living and we have the transactions, and we have numbers that we want to, and then people say okay hyper sign added value to a real-world problem which not just writing code which is nobody is using.
Irfan: One thing I just want to mention here is that I mean using gleam in the sense that it’s not solving a problem in the sense that okay it’s helping you but like wiki rightly said you’re ending paying 4,000 dollars for a campaign that’s maybe you’re going to give away another 2,000, so you’re ending up spending 70,000 and it’s not doing the job and on the flip side you also have to think about the people participating right, and you know how these crypto natives are? They don’t want to talk about their personal information, they don’t want to give their email address, they don’t want to give their face, they don’t want to give anything. So, you’re collecting all this personal information, you’re triangulating attacks for them because now you have this Google form that has their wallet address, their phone number, their email address, their maybe their city country, so how do you solve that right and yes, I think web 3 is the only way and hi integrating something like this with that web 3 is the only way to go ahead and build something like this.
Jay: Absolutely!
Astropark: Yes, it’s a very nice product you developed guys. I’m very impressed.
Jay to Daniel: Do you want to start with a few questions maybe from the public? A lot of people are seemed to be excited to talk and maybe ask questions. We have a few questions from forums that we have given to everyone a few people in the chat as well maybe we could start right away with some of them?
Astropark: Someone just asked the percent has a new product HyperFyre, so this is something someone may be from the community that knows about this product. So, how is it unique and why should it be used so what does it give the users so basically, everything Vikram told us was about this a HyperFyre solution just to create a real community to cut out all the bots so Vikram will be cremated?
Vikram: sure so existing platforms. Although at the top it looks like you know it’s somehow working for crypto native people, internally they are all web 2 centric meaning that they don’t take care about your privacy they don’t take care about security much not only this is from the user end, okay, but the actual problem is for people who are creating the campaigns the customer of these products.
So, they have their own specific need because now for a crypto company we need to filter users based on like if they are our token holders, or they have our NFT, or they have taken part in our like a staking platform, or you know there are so many use cases gleam doesn’t fit into it is only a simple tool to follow people on telegram Twitter, and you know filter based on that, but we need all this a combination of this and there wasn’t any product like that I could not find when I was trying to you know do my campaigns, and luckily I know enough coding, so I was like okay I will merge these two and see what’s the result.
Irfan: That’s the point about gleam right, so gleam is not you may be making a tweet and pasting that URL as proof you can just check it sorry tick a checkbox and say I joined the telegram group, but the fact of the matter is that you may not have done it’s a loophole but HyperFyre works slightly differently right? We are using authentication and verification mechanisms to ensure that the participants are really in the telegram group that they have tweeted that you know that they have part of the discord group, so we’re going to be adding a lot of more social media, so that’s going to happen, so the fact of the matter is that it’s not just checking boxes and paste URLs no. We are authenticating, verifying, authorizing all these participants to make sure that they’ve done the task.
Jay: So, in the end, this is better for not only the user, the end-user but also the companies trying to verify the people that are joining these campaigns.
Astropark: Also defending the privacy of the user will let’s say fill the form okay in this case with upper fire because now in the hand as you were saying the company so the man who asked for people to fill the form will not have the people the personal data so the email the phone, so this is something that it will be protected.
Vikram: and also you have to see the type of customers use this platform, they are all marketing people, they have a load of work every day manage campaigns manage twitter telegram post content they are always overloaded marketing people have the maximum amount of work in any project when it’s launching right, like when and that time you need to be supportive like the tools would support them and not become like a burden for them to create campaigns and things like that and when you have everything at one place it becomes very easy, so we built it in a way that it’s very intuitive for them plus they save money much like almost one thousand percent cheaper than existing solutions, that’s also add-on which they can now add it to their token and instead of paying to gleam they can distribute to their community in the form of tokens, so you have the same budget, and you have you know bigger outreach audience outreach. So, overall value proposition.
Astropark: Someone else was asking what makes cypress superior to competitors? So, I don’t know what can you tell us about the competitors we’re talking about gleam basically but the Hypersign is much more it’s not always only HyperFyre.
Irfan: So, the Hypersign as a protocol I mean it’s so let’s just talk about that for a second right what we envision Hypersign at least so HyperFyre is a use case it’s a practical application it’s one of the branches of the Hypersign protocol similar to HyperFyre we have multiple other branches in our mind of how we will build out applications and use cases of the Hypersign protocol so basically, when we talk on a product level on a use case level it depends on so HyperFyre as we mentioned correctly is a gleam competitor it’s a marketing tool we have other I’m not sure if there is any other company doing this for the crypto space, but there are a few other companies like sweepstakes and giveaways and so there are some other applications in the webspace, but maybe there’s not much competition in the web three-space as, yet I’m guessing others will follow.
If we talk about the other products that we are thinking about in terms of login verification authentication, we plan to launch Apps very shortly for WordPress, so there is no strong authentication application for WordPress you know, and it’s that there is Shopify as well, so Shopify supports a lot of social logins, of course, has a legacy of problems even Facebook is changing their name now because of the problems they’re facing so from a product perspective if you’d if you jumped into each product there’s a vast range of competitors that we can talk about right because we are trying to solve industry problems per vertical using our products right, so it depends on the product. It could be for the enterprise it could be for small-medium businesses, it could be for a government, it would be for the crypto industry, it depends on the product
If we move a layer under so like we currently said we are working on layer 2. Now we are talking about on the protocol layer how are we different from the competition there I’m not going to take names but of course there are a couple of other identity companies who are working in this space I’m guessing that the decentralized identifier industry as a use case, as a network, as an application, is something that will become mainstream. It will my personal view on this is there was d5 there are NFTs, and I think the next step will be DIDs that that will probably hit the mainstream, but the fact of the matter is that most of the companies who are building on a protocol layer what we are building are not focused on the use case I’m guessing they would probably work with some other partners to build some use cases on their literature.
But what makes us different is that our approach is different, so we first build out the use cases, and once we have those use cases, once we have the transactions, once we have the revenue coming in than what we do is just build a layer two and then just plug everything on top right rather than building a layer two and then begging a thousand companies, hey please come build on me hey please don’t build upright so our approach towards building a layer towards slightly different our approach to building products was slightly different as well and this essentially is to say that we want to build our layer 2 in such a way that it, it’s appropriate for the identity space it’s appropriate for the security space it’s appropriate for the authentication space irrelevant of the customer being web 2 or web 3.0.
Vikram: So, you can think of it as Hypersign is an identity stack now before we go to production in the identity stack we are testing all our protocol and implementation in our products you know that’s why HyperFyre has authentication with hyper science it will also evolve by the time we reach to market it will be very different maybe it will be just in the form of SDK so that you don’t even see where Hypersign is, so you know that’s the goal that we have, so we are just testing it on our products and these use cases helped a lot in doing a decent amount of testing before we can bring it out to other people to use it as an API, or you know network it depends on how we roll out.
Astropark: Someone else was asking, how they hit the tokens are used in HyperFyre? It is something connected?
Vikram: good question. So, it’s very simple at this point the first stage is to all the payments which are going to be done we are integrating with the payment processor, and it will have a hit payment attached plus there will be also hit burn like the revenue would be shared with we want to share it with community, so we will burn head based on some calculations we are going to share that also to the community.
Astropark: So, they hit the token holders.
Vikram: I mean it will be burnt. So, basically the total amount of revenue which is coming through this platform we will do some sort of revenue share meaning we will divide that, and we will burn let’s say half of it and keep up for the further product development of locked in a contract which will be open to the public, and they can see how much is coming in going things like that apart from the other side of it, a normal people would see it differently right now only the customers can understand this what pain point is solved, but as a user like you and me who hold hid token for them, you know interesting and fun thing would come when the whole the campaign that you see where you take part in the campaign, that will convert into NFT sort of platform which will be unique to us like some sort of you know we are coming up with our own NFT lines. For example, you help hyper man which is our mascot to kill bots right, so that’s what we do know when you are helping them kill bots by taking part in this event you get you to know some very rare NFTs because you help to kill them, so that will give me five the whole front-end side of it in the next versions. So, that I’m very excited about that, and I’m already discussing a lot on this on discord so any of you who are NFT artists, or you know any want to get involved in this happy to discuss with you please join our discord.
So that’s where directly it will impact because it will be attached anyway to NFTs to buy sell on the market, and you know this might create sort of a ripple effect like if you know people like the NFTs they might sell it buy it, and it will be used there as well, so that’s the other utility that we created in this.
Jay: Nice! What else do we have as questions let’s see this somebody’s asking how does the did work? this is a pretty basic question, but I think a lot of people maybe need to know who hasn’t followed the hyper sign-up to a noun that is maybe interested in getting into it how is identity stored with wallet addresses or can you give us a little more insight?
Vikram: so this is the current version of Hypersign we don’t have any blockchain wallets integrated because we want to keep it separate, and you know payment part until we are in the production stage that we are sure that all the platform the whole platform works is secure and works fine then we want to integrate the payment side of it but now right now how it works is basically every I’ll make it very simple every time you click on that button login with Hypersign, it detects your browser, it creates a unique identifier for your browser which is called a DID document, now in that DID document it stores your public key and then this DID document is stored on our test network that we have, and the private keys remains in the wallet itself along with all your data credential like we issue you a verifiable credential of your personal information it never resides in any server it only resides on your browser, so as if our you know servers are even hacked, the attackers would not get any of your information. Your personal information is always in your app.
It doesn’t matter how many browsers you change because, in the end, we are authenticating through your Google account, so we are getting to know that you are the true owner of this email address, and then we are generating a pseudo-anonymous account from it on Hypersign platform and with this account then you further on authenticating so one time when you are registering with Google that time google gets to know that you are logging into something called Hypersign but after that where all you use Hypersign, google never gets to know, so this is how we are trying to bring in one more layer of privacy for you even while maintaining the ease of having login with Google or registering with Google so that’s how Hypersign works at this point.
Irfan: One point I would like to add on top of that, so essentially, we are we joined about two months ago the decentralized identity foundation there’s it’s a consortium of companies in the decentralized identity space who are building what is increasingly known as self-sovereign identity right now. You basically as users as human beings have control on our data, and we see, and we know, and we decide as users as owners of our data who gets to see it who gets to access it, and the hyper sign protocol is essentially built out along to the application layer based on these self-sovereign identity principles. If you would like to know more, please do go and study the self-sovereign identity principles they’re available online.
Astropark: Someone is also asking will a person eventually need to create his chain? so you talked about some kind of test net you are now, and you talked also about a future production system, so maybe I guess it’s a yes for this question you’re going to have your blockchain?
Vikram: so I will just clarify you know, but I would like to add an approach that that is in our mind we want to keep our investors’ money safe, so we want to use the existing infrastructure for example you know either Ethereum or Matic wherever our token is available they can freely trade there for DID infrastructure we will have our layer. Our layer will also allow you to make transactions like token transactions, but it’s up the choice is with the investors they want to keep it on our network, they want to keep it on Ethereum network or any other things that tokens are available, so we want to use the security and flexibility in a hybrid approach so that’s the one point I would like to add.
Astropark: Okay, and I have also a question about the data marketplace how will the users be able to monetize their data? Do you have an estimate of the revenue a regular user would be able to make?
Vikram: Honestly, I do not have a proper estimation on this because this is like we want to launch a data market along with one of the partners probably I would try to take help from the ocean market because they have the data marketplace already what we do is verify the data, so we want to build a platform that can integrate our solution on oceans’ marketplace like creating a new market for hyper sign and the data that our users are getting credentials verified credentials they can probably sell there, so it’s still a work in process, but I would, we are keeping a tab on this once our SDK is live like the next version of this product that is the authentication SDK, once that is life after that we start working on the data market then I will have more you know better answer.
Irfan: I would like to add one pointer, so there’s one fundamental point that has to be understood as we move into web three right. On one side you have these extremely traditional businesses whether that’s Facebook whether it’s google whatever they’re their source of revenue is user data right, that’s how they function right and increasingly more and more companies that’s how they function they the cost of televisions has gone down to zero because now everybody just wants streaming data right they want to know what’s being watched and on this, so the point is that data is becoming increasingly of value the surrounding everything is just facilitators of the data right. Now when we move into web 3 what’s happening right, we want to protect the data privacy is coming in zero-knowledge proofs are coming and technology is coming in to prevent these companies from doing that.
Jay: Which is what we want in the end, I think a lot of people are tired of being the product.
Irfan: exactly that is my point but at the same time, you cannot have that level of disruption because that is how are those companies going to somehow are they going to work at the end of the day Nike still wants to reach out to their customers McDonald’s still wants to go to the customers you cannot ignore that fact so how do you address that right that that is the point of the data month that we how do you bring that and self-sovereign identity principles together right, and it’s simple you have all these users you have all these people all these human beings who have registered on Hypersign now they have the power to be like yes I want to receive communication from Nike I want to receive communication from McDonald’s how it works is it’s not difficult right, so you have a basic simple form that says yes first check I want to receive marketing material, and then you would profile yourself that okay I’m male I’m 28 years old I like running that’s it. You don’t have to give your name Nike doesn’t give a damn about your name right. Nike is looking for guys who are running in the city, so they can target those who are in this age group.
Jay: They don’t want your phone number they don’t want to whatever they just want to be able to reach you.
Irfan: They do want it you know what I mean. They do want that stuff, but they don’t need to have it right and that’s where the tech comes out that’s where zero-knowledge proof comes and that’s where seven identity principles come upright that the user now allows Nike to contact them rather than Nike being like hey give me your identity I’m going to like spam you know so that that’s the fundamental difference of how the data market would operation would be operationally supporting the user in terms of protecting the data and the privacy as well as not creating so much disruption in the industry that all these companies are like hey now what do I need to find something else that’s the point.
Jay: It’s great I’d love to see this day and I hope it comes soon actually.
Irfan: it’s coming. I mean at some point in time and some point, in time you will not be using peer-to-peer calling peer-to-peer you know messaging, so you will be calling people without knowing their phone number without knowing who the because you’re going to be using decentralized identifiers to be connecting with people right you don’t need a phone number anymore you don’t need WhatsApp or telegram to intermediate.
Jay: No exactly. We just need the connection and then that’s it. Exactly.
Astropark: I just was looking at this slide and I had a question in my mind your solution is going to be used also to simplify the idle launch pads so, do you have also some partnerships already in place? I saw also you have stated here already some customers and partners maybe you can tell something about this.
Irfan: sure I’d like to talk about that so okay, so there is I’m okay I’m going to give you another story okay. So, one thing I realized early on that if I am going to go and sell my product to crypto companies I’m going to tell them hey I want to be your promotion marketing and airdrop partner I can tell you from now that anyone in blockchain knows this that if they see these three words in one sentence they’re going to block your ass immediately you know what I mean they’re going to block you because it’s all scams all the guys who are talking about promotions and marketing is like 95 scams how do we go and sell a product where no one knows us and we have to open that conversation with “hey I want to do airdrop for you” block this person like you know whatever, so the only way out for us is to basically ensure that we have a very strong partner and this is where totem have been extremely supportive UNIDO have been extremely supportive they are basically working with their larger community to get the word out most of the projects that we are working with today are references of other projects we are doing word of mouth because I guess at the end of the day, although we are solving a trust problem, there is still a trust problem so and the human element of trust still needs to be addressed. So, our primary strategy as of today is word of mouth at the beginning it’s the best way right because the amount it’s just you know web 3 I like to say is the wild west you know WWW so if it’s going to take a while before that comes down, so we are targeting the market through word of mouth very strategic partnerships this is still a bit out of date you will see more and more partnerships coming out just to get the HyperFyre word out.
Vikram: so channel strategy is one of the things that are working for us, so we would like to partner with idea platforms, or I think new projects the platforms that launch new projects, so there are accelerators, so we have partnered with some we are trying to get more partnership because they can spread the words and that’s where new projects would get to know about us and hopefully, we will do good numbers in the coming few months.
Jay: Vikram and Ikram, do we have any closing words, any things that we haven’t talked about that you want us to know.
Vikram: You are fine.
Irfan: I always got something to say man I’m sorry, but you know.
Jay: It’s all good we’re here to listen to you this is the point.
Irfan: I want to send a message out to whoever’s watching this especially if you’re launching a new blockchain project please take care don’t get caught up in these traps of I will pump your token I will pump your telegram I will pump, you know please be aware try and work within your no matter how small you’re starting to try and work within your community talk to your friends, talk to trusted people. I’ve personally lost a lot of money a lot of time a lot of effort on experimenting with different things on promoting and trying to build community and trying to reach out there trying to get my word out there a lot of pitfalls and traps please take care come to talk to us if you need any sort of help not even just you know business-related if you need help with talking just bouncing your ideas, please come talk to us if you have any problems come to talk to us, we’re always here to help.
Jay: That’s very generous of you. I hope they do listen because things do need to change. Vikram, Irfan, thank you so much. This has been very revealing actually, I love HyperFyre what’s coming I hope this will change the industry because it’s certainly very promising as a product and, we hope to see it being used out there in many products.
Irfan: thank you guys for hosting us again it’s always a pleasure to talk to them.
Jay: Bye.
Astropark: Same for us guys thank you so take care bye.
Jay: Have a nice weekend, everybody.
References
Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtqmF_B2YqI
Project links
Website: https://hypersign.id/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/hypersignchain
Telegram community channel: https://t.me/hypersignchain
Telegram announcement channel: https://t.me/hypersign_ann
Medium: https://medium.com/hypersign
Disclaimer
The article is for informational purposes only. It contains no financial advice. Always do your own research before investing in any crypto project.
