I think I finally got Code of Conducts
A pretty crazy week at DjangoCon Europe in Budapest.
Admittedly, I used to be on the fence about Code of Conducts for a long time. I saw what an effect they had on reaching underrepresented parts of our…
Benjamin WohlwendApr 44 min read
David EadsFeb 267 min read
If he truly did engage in public “slut-shames” (as you allege) then you should amend your article to reflect what he actually said so readers can decide for themselves whether they w...
I don’t think a comment like this deserves public shaming.
Ryan Swapp
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Great point Ryan, if I go by nothing but this article then I have a biased opinion from Kassandra’s point of view. I COMPLETELY AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY that I would like to know what specifically was said to you!!!
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Bryan “BJ” HoffpauirJan 242 min read
Recently, I listened to a prominent figure inside the PHP community talk about the subject, all I can say is it was disappointing to hear said person take such a dismissive attitude ...
On Codes on Conduct
Allan MacGregor
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Allan, I hope you know that I have nothing but the utmost respect for you. I have no doubt that you and many other reasonable people have legitimate concerns with CoC’s, their creation, and their ultimate enforcement. But between the GamerGate fiasco and the way this topic has clearly brought out the absolute worst from members of a community that I…
Bryan “BJ” HoffpauirJan 241 min read
All worthy additions to the code of conduct to prevent abuse and limit the number of edge cases and people affected by them.
On Codes on Conduct
Allan MacGregor
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Here, I think you may be close to venturing into straw-man territory. I am unaware of any reported abuses of CoC, they have all been theoretical based on the limited evidence I’ve seen. Given that the CoC is being considered to address actual harassment that no reasonable person is arguing doesn’t actually exist, I think we should limit our focus to…
Bryan “BJ” HoffpauirJan 241 min read
The Code of Conduct should be modified so that abiding or not abiding by it is demonstrable with evidence, taking “feelings” out of it entirely. For example, a person shouldn’t be in...
On Codes on Conduct
Allan MacGregor
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Although I’m not completely disagreeing with this point, I do think this may be an impossible standard. People will disagree, especially the person doing the harassing / trolling. For conflicts arising around this topic, I think it is simply not possible to remove “feelings.” Perhaps just owning up to the inherent subjectivity is a better path…
Bryan “BJ” HoffpauirJan 241 min read
We should require that any person who is accused of violating the Code of Conduct clearly have intent to do so. This is a harder standard to prove, but one that should help us from h...
On Codes on Conduct
Allan MacGregor
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You had me until this point. IMO, the entire point of CoC is to address unintended consequences. Few people genuinely think they are bad actors. Most have some rationalization for whatever behavior they engage in, some of which may even be justified. That doesn’t prevent the marginalization or harassment from affecting people of marginalized…